Need Help Identifying Bike Found In Doghouse - Page 2

Crabenho · 01-27-2010, 08:07 PM

Thanks fellas. Provided the frame and wheels are salvagable, what do you think it's worth with the few bits you can see?

jeandr · 01-27-2010, 08:58 PM

Bring a case of beer or a good port (Ramos Pinto Colheita

), bring some cash, but don't offer too much, less than $100, say $40 for the whole lot or $50 if he helps you load it up. Don't go over $100 no matter what that first time. With such a mix of parts, it will cost you quite a bit to get a good runner.

Jean

rtwdoug · 01-27-2010, 09:23 PM

yep, its either an Amen Savior frame (so called because it would 'save-yer' ass)
or maybe a Santee, who also made em back then. they both made complete frames, or bolt/weld on rear sections.
I cant see the neck, so I dunno if thats a factory front section.
Mounts look like triumph unit twin (63 & later) fork trees look like triumph also.
It was common 30-40 years ago to add the rear section, & put 'slugs' in the forks. these were just thread in extentions for the tubes that went into the top to make em longer.
Never sounded very safe to me, I'd never run them. (I have never seen a set of tubes that were broken from them tho)
I love findin old stuff like this thats been stored for years.

take some more pics next time your over there

Doug

eldomike · 01-28-2010, 04:32 AM

Amen frame for a unit 500 Triumph

Crabenho · 02-04-2010, 05:46 PM

Thanks for all the help with this fellas. Looks I'll get the lot of it for around $150. Includes a complete Triumph motor as well. I'm going down this weekend. I'll take detailed pics once I get it all home.

squish · 02-04-2010, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crabenho

Thanks for all the help with this fellas. Looks I'll get the lot of it for around $150. Includes a complete Triumph motor as well. I'm going down this weekend. I'll take detailed pics once I get it all home.

Heck you should be able to sell the spoon foot pegs for that much.

If it's got a Bates seat in the mess you're golden.

Crabenho · 02-05-2010, 04:24 AM

It was kind of hard to match those rear plungers exactly. From what I learned tonight, if the axle goes through the plunger it's an Amen; if it mounts to the rear it could be a Santee. Does that sound right?

Here are a couple mid sixties Triumphs with what appear to be similar frame combos.

Crabenho · 02-14-2010, 10:44 PM

The owner has turned out to be a bit of a recluse; he's very hard to pin down. I'm going to try to get down there next week sometime. My buddy was able to sneak a peek in the garage. Apparently there are a bunch of parts in there as well, including a stepped type rider/pillion seat and a fairly heavily chromed Triumph motor. I can't wait to start digging through the stuff.

jeandr · 02-15-2010, 09:39 PM

$150 is a good price

Don't forget the beer

Jean

Chanderjeet · 02-16-2010, 07:58 AM

I'd pay 150 only for the motor. But then what do I know.

Good grab !

I wish we all find similar doghouses.

Kamloopsrider · 02-16-2010, 01:42 PM

Those soft tail rear ends were one of the worst I've ever ridden. IMHO you are better off going with a hardtail. Rougher ride but at least when you go into a corner you have a good idea where you are coming out.
For 150 it's not a bad deal. Parts are still pretty easy to find. Good luck.

RedRocket · 02-16-2010, 07:13 PM

You can be cool yet!

Rob Farmer · 02-17-2010, 05:28 AM

I think whoever butchered the bike in the first place needs a good slapping.

billdozer2 · 03-24-2010, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crabenho

It was kind of hard to match those rear plungers exactly. From what I learned tonight, if the axle goes through the plunger it's an Amen; if it mounts to the rear it could be a Santee. Does that sound right?

Here are a couple mid sixties Triumphs with what appear to be similar frame combos.

Ha! Both those pics are the same bike, mine! I think that description of the axles sounds right, and that one looks like the exact same rear frame set up as I had on mine. Not a real Amen, could have been a Santee but I never really found out for sure. Front was a stock '70 Trump hoop. I sleeved the springs with chromoly tubing so the "suspension" on the rear was locked out and rigid. Rode much better that way, I didn't care for the sloppy feel in hard cornering when it was sprung, even though the travel was minimal. I rode it like that through NYC and Baja and loved it. Good luck with your find, it's not terribly valuable or collectible but can be fun nonetheless.

Crabenho · 03-24-2010, 10:08 PM

Hey billdozer, that's funny! Your first post too, welcome. I LOVE your bike. I'm still trying to pin the guy down. I think it's going to happen but it's taking a little longer than I wanted. I guess it has been in there for 10 years, what's a few more weeks. I'd love to hear some more history about your old ride.

Quote:

Originally Posted by billdozer2

Ha! Both those pics are the same bike, mine! I think that description of the axles sounds right, and that one looks like the exact same rear frame set up as I had on mine. Not a real Amen, could have been a Santee but I never really found out for sure. Front was a stock '70 Trump hoop. I sleeved the springs with chromoly tubing so the "suspension" on the rear was locked out and rigid. Rode much better that way, I didn't care for the sloppy feel in hard cornering when it was sprung, even though the travel was minimal. I rode it like that through NYC and Baja and loved it. Good luck with your find, it's not terribly valuable or collectible but can be fun nonetheless.

01-27-2010, 09:23 PM	#18
rtwdoug prominent underachiever Joined: Dec 2004 Location: Alabamski Oblast, Redneckistan Oddometer: 3,024	yep, its either an Amen Savior frame (so called because it would 'save-yer' ass) or maybe a Santee, who also made em back then. they both made complete frames, or bolt/weld on rear sections. I cant see the neck, so I dunno if thats a factory front section. Mounts look like triumph unit twin (63 & later) fork trees look like triumph also. It was common 30-40 years ago to add the rear section, & put 'slugs' in the forks. these were just thread in extentions for the tubes that went into the top to make em longer. Never sounded very safe to me, I'd never run them. (I have never seen a set of tubes that were broken from them tho) I love findin old stuff like this thats been stored for years. take some more pics next time your over there Doug __________________ 2011 Magadan (I hope!) (03 Harley 1200 Dirtster) 2010 Europe & the Middle East (75 Harley Bobber) 2009 Around the World ('62 Harley Chopper) 2008 Europe (TDM & Guzzi Falcone) 2007 Europe (TDM850) 2006 Around the World ('48 Indian Chief) 2005 Europe & N Africa (KLR650) 2004 Europe (KLR650) www.motosapiens.org My bike hotel in Bulgaria. ADVriders get 1st beer free!

02-04-2010, 05:46 PM	#20
Crabenho ^OP NOOBish Joined: May 2004 Location: Northern Colorado Oddometer: 609	Update Thanks for all the help with this fellas. Looks I'll get the lot of it for around $150. Includes a complete Triumph motor as well. I'm going down this weekend. I'll take detailed pics once I get it all home.

02-14-2010, 10:44 PM	#23
Crabenho ^OP NOOBish Joined: May 2004 Location: Northern Colorado Oddometer: 609	Bump Update The owner has turned out to be a bit of a recluse; he's very hard to pin down. I'm going to try to get down there next week sometime. My buddy was able to sneak a peek in the garage. Apparently there are a bunch of parts in there as well, including a stepped type rider/pillion seat and a fairly heavily chromed Triumph motor. I can't wait to start digging through the stuff.

02-16-2010, 07:58 AM	#25
Chanderjeet IndiYeah !! Joined: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi, India Oddometer: 5,597	I'd pay 150 only for the motor. But then what do I know. Good grab ! I wish we all find similar doghouses. __________________ Himalayas on a Motorcycle - Photography book by Chanderjeet Mango Lassi of the bumfucked hillbillies MC

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01-27-2010, 08:07 PM	#16
Crabenho ^OP NOOBish Joined: May 2004 Location: Northern Colorado Oddometer: 609	Thanks fellas. Provided the frame and wheels are salvagable, what do you think it's worth with the few bits you can see?

01-27-2010, 08:58 PM	#17
jeandr Adventurer Joined: Oct 2009 Oddometer: 46	Bring a case of beer or a good port (Ramos Pinto Colheita ), bring some cash, but don't offer too much, less than $100, say $40 for the whole lot or $50 if he helps you load it up. Don't go over $100 no matter what that first time. With such a mix of parts, it will cost you quite a bit to get a good runner. Jean

01-28-2010, 04:32 AM	#19
eldomike Who Cares Joined: Aug 2009 Location: Southern Illinois Oddometer: 512	Amen frame for a unit 500 Triumph

02-05-2010, 04:24 AM	#22
Crabenho ^OP NOOBish Joined: May 2004 Location: Northern Colorado Oddometer: 609	It was kind of hard to match those rear plungers exactly. From what I learned tonight, if the axle goes through the plunger it's an Amen; if it mounts to the rear it could be a Santee. Does that sound right? Here are a couple mid sixties Triumphs with what appear to be similar frame combos.

02-15-2010, 09:39 PM	#24
jeandr Adventurer Joined: Oct 2009 Oddometer: 46	$150 is a good price Don't forget the beer Jean

02-16-2010, 01:42 PM	#26
Kamloopsrider Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2009 Location: Rainshadow of the Coast mountains Oddometer: 332	Those soft tail rear ends were one of the worst I've ever ridden. IMHO you are better off going with a hardtail. Rougher ride but at least when you go into a corner you have a good idea where you are coming out. For 150 it's not a bad deal. Parts are still pretty easy to find. Good luck.

02-16-2010, 07:13 PM	#27
RedRocket Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs Joined: Feb 2003 Location: SoCal Oddometer: 17,766	You can be cool yet!

02-17-2010, 05:28 AM	#28
Rob Farmer Beastly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2002 Location: Loughborough, Leicestershire. England Oddometer: 3,733	I think whoever butchered the bike in the first place needs a good slapping.