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Old 02-06-2013, 08:33 AM   #15901
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Well, I have TKC80's and if I ride over 195kph I do get a front wheel shake. I try my best to ride at 194kph in order to prevent that.
That'll be the knobs flying off.
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:48 AM   #15902
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I thought the ECU flash only gave a couple of extra BHP.

I just had my bike Flashed with the ECUunleashed system and I had a PCV fitted. It was then Dyno'd and tuned and this is the result. An extra 8 bhp at the rear wheel which works out to about an extra 10 bhp at the crank.

This is the 5th gear results, TCS off and S mode. 84.8 bhp before, 92.8 bhp after. There are no other power train mods on my bike. (i.e. stock exhaust/ air filter etc)



And this is the torque difference in 2nd gear. Bloody hell !!!!!



I haven't collected the bike yet but cannot wait till Saturday when I do. I am also doing a test ride on a Triumph 1200 Explorer just to see what it is like. Don't worry, I am a Yamaha man at heart.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:22 AM   #15903
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Hey, I thought we had a deal!! Now your trying to deal off that great dual sport to someone else
It's in such high demand I got confused as to who all wanted it.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:49 AM   #15904
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Git,


I had a question about your first graph...






During roll-ons, and somewhere between ~3500 and 4500 PPM, my bike has this incessant "drumming", as if the timing is completely dicked-up.

It appears, from the graph, that they were able to smooth things out, in that area (orange lines).

There is a poster (can't recall his screenname), on YST.com, who says that the ECUnleashed reflash neither made that much of a difference, nor smoothed-out the drumming on his bike. So, from that comment, and from what I can see, the PC-V (combined with the reflash) seems to make all the difference.


So, my question is...

What exactly can they do with the PC-V? (ignition timing, etc.)


Thanks.


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Old 02-06-2013, 12:47 PM   #15905
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Probably my favorite commercial, when I was a kid...

The "famed" Jay Gleason at the helm.... he could get a couple nano-seconds faster out of just about any bike of the day.
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:09 PM   #15906
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BMW QA is still "world class"

Recall notice.

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According to Transport Canada, transmission oil pressure on certain BMW R1200GS units may get too high, resulting in a leak in the output shaft sealing ring. An oil leak directly in front of the rear tire could result in a loss of traction and stability, potentially leading to a crash.
The 2013 BMW R1200GS is almost entirely new, including the transmission which is fully integrated into the engine casing, so there’s no worry about this issue affecting previous model years.
BMW dealers will install an oil restrictor to reduce the oil pressure at the transmission output. The Transport Canada recall affects 31 units of the 2013 BMW R1200GS.
We will have more information if and when NHTSA posts a similar recall for the U.S.
Pity, it was looking good there for about a week.

They seem to have moved the problems further up the drive shaft.

I'll pop over in six months and see how the best bike in the world is going.

Even without the "problems" the thing is being pushed in the "jacked up street bike" direction anyway.

Getting crowded up that end.

Seems to be a bit of confusion about whether this is the new 2013 or the old 2013.
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:06 PM   #15907
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There are only 31 2013 GS's in Canada?
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:13 PM   #15908
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Thought I would share

BMW QA is still "world class"

Recall notice.



Pity, it was looking good there for about a week.

They seem to have moved the problems further up the drive shaft.

I'll pop over in six months and see how the best bike in the world is going.

Even without the "problems" the thing is being pushed in the "jacked up street bike" direction anyway.

Getting crowded up that end.

Seems to be a bit of confusion about whether this is the new 2013 or the old 2013.
James Bond's car did the same thing. Maybe it will be in the next Bond movie dumping oil
to get rid of those pesky Multistradas.
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:52 PM   #15909
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There are only 31 2013 GS's in Canada?
They cost $40k in Canadian dollars! Or maybe they just have better taste?
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:55 PM   #15910
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the new GS in Canada starts at $18600, plus the various option packages.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:16 PM   #15911
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Been interested in a S10. Did search in the flea mkt. and found 6 for sale plus 3 that have sold since 12/15/12. This seems like an awful lot of these bikes to be for sale after being owned for only a year or so. Anybody got thoughts on why so many people are getting rid of year old bikes ?

I am one of the offending parties in the Flea Market. Aside from having some other life priorities like a home purchase, I have what some would call "a problem" with always wanting to try different bikes (6 in the last 4 years). I can't really fault the bike for anything within the realm of its intended purpose. If I was retired and could plan trips to Alaska or wherever, it would be my first choice, hands down. As it turns out though, it looks like the future of my riding will be commuting 11 suburban miles to work and maybe half a dozen weekends a year of woods riding......not stuff I need a shiny new continental adv tourer in the garage for. I will say I like to have bike projects and the S10 has really sucked for that. I have more free time to mess around in the garage than actually ride. My KLR provided endless garage hours doing things that would "improve" it.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:24 PM   #15912
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Cool2 Well, sort of...

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the new GS in Canada starts at $18600, plus the various option packages.


Well, not exactly...

According to http://www.bmw-motorrad.ca/ the MSRP in Canada for the 2013 BMW R1200G/S is $18,750.00, and if you option one out to most closely match the standard equipment of the current Super Tenere (spoke wheels, ABS, Automatic Stability Control - which is BMW's TCS, onboard trip computer, hand guards, etc.) then you end tacking on an additional $2,820.00 Canadian, bringing the total to $21,570.00 Canadian. Then if you continue through the web bike "configuration" menu to complete the "build your own" fun you find the BMW factory tacks on an additional $750.00 Canadian for "Freight & P.D.I."...

That brings the total of a Yamaha Super Tenere equivalent to $22,320.00 Canadian.

OTOH, according to http://www.yamaha-motor.ca/products/index.php?group=M Yamaha Canada web site, the MSRP of a 2013 Yamaha Super Tenere is $16,499.00 Canadian (http://www.yamaha-motor.ca/products/...oup=M|&LANG=en)...

That means there is at a minimum a difference of $5,071.00 Canadian dollars between the two if you don't add in BMW's "Freight & P.D.I.". That's a whopping 24% more. If that :"Freight & P.D.I." is included then the difference swells to a $5,821.00, or 26% more...

Just trying to keep the record straight.

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Old 02-06-2013, 06:28 PM   #15913
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As it turns out though, it looks like the future of my riding will be commuting 11 suburban miles to work and maybe half a dozen weekends a year of woods riding.......
Well I solved that by installing a plank full of nails on the bike where the seat used to be, so I pack the tent and camp on the side of the road after 5 miles. My butt feels like I've riding for 500Km at that stage. Might take me a long time to get to work but it feels like an Adventure.

Nope only kidding.

I see your point. You need an interstate job in that case.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:30 PM   #15914
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Well, not exactly...

According to http://www.bmw-motorrad.ca/ the MSRP in Canada for the 2013 BMW R1200G/S is $18,750.00, and if you option one out to most closely match the standard equipment of the current Super Tenere (spoke wheels, ABS, Automatic Stability Control - which is BMW's TCS, onboard trip computer, hand guards, etc.) then you end tacking on an additional $2,820.00 Canadian, bringing the total to $21,570.00 Canadian. Then if you continue through the web bike "configuration" menu to complete the "build your own" fun you find the BMW factory tacks on an additional $750.00 Canadian for "Freight & P.D.I."...

That brings the total of a Yamaha Super Tenere equivalent to $22,320.00 Canadian.

OTOH, according to http://www.yamaha-motor.ca/products/index.php?group=M Yamaha Canada web site, the MSRP of a 2013 Yamaha Super Tenere is $16,499.00 Canadian (http://www.yamaha-motor.ca/products/...oup=M|&LANG=en)...

That means there is at a minimum a difference of $5,071.00 Canadian dollars between the two if you don't add in BMW's "Freight & P.D.I.". That's a whopping 24% more. If that :"Freight & P.D.I." is included then the difference swells to a $5,821.00, or 26% more...

Just trying to keep the record straight.

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All I ever have time for is smart ass comments.

Anyway the last time I looked which funnily enough was when I was getting serious about a new bike, In Oz the apples to apples price Difference was 26/20 = 23% down or 30% up.

For an extra 30% I get worms in my apple as well.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:19 PM   #15915
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All I ever have time for is smart ass comments.
Well, that does explain some things...
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