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Old 02-06-2013, 09:10 PM   #15946
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Laugh Now *THAT'S* funny...

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Makes you kinda wish something would break on a Tenere so we wouldn't
have to sniff around other brands for discussion.





Ain't it the truth!

But can't you just hear what those Beemer pilots would be saying if they looked in here?

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"Can you believe it? All those Souper Ten-Ner guys ever talk about are BMW's. Gotta' be envy for all the character, technology, and breeding our Roundel Ranger mounts have... Makes me almost spill my Starbucks while tanning my whale foreskin just thinkin' about it."
Little would they realize...

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Old 02-06-2013, 09:16 PM   #15947
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Makes you kinda wish something would break on a Tenere so we wouldn't
have to sniff around other brands for discussion.
No But you are right. I suppose in a few years things might start getting exciting round here...

Anyone approaching 200,000Miles on the S10 yet?
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:18 PM   #15948
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Can you believe it? All those Souper Ten-Ner guys ever talk about are BMW's. Gotta' be envy for all the character, technology, and breeding our Roundel Ranger mounts have... Makes me almost spill my Starbucks while tanning my whale foreskin just thinkin' about it."
I can't see with this huge cloud of SMUG around here guys, What was that you wrote Dalllara?...
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:23 PM   #15949
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No But you are right. I suppose in a few years things might start getting exciting round here...

Anyone approaching 200,000Miles on the S10 yet?


Sail2xxs over on the Super Tenere forum will crack 100,000 miles this year on his bike, I'm sure (he's at over 72,000 in less than 18 months)... And he'll freely send you his maintenance and upkeep records and costs for his time of ownership just for the asking. I've seen his data and it's pretty amazing. The bike's tougher than an anvil and just as reliable.

No doubt there will a lot of Super Tenere's do 200-K, no problem.

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Old 02-06-2013, 09:52 PM   #15950
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Sail2xxs over on the Super Tenere forum will crack 100,000 miles this year on his bike, I'm sure (he's at over 72,000 in less than 18 months)... And he'll freely send you his maintenance and upkeep records and costs for his time of ownership just for the asking. I've seen his data and it's pretty amazing. The bike's tougher than an anvil and just as reliable.

No doubt there will a lot of Super Tenere's do 200-K, no problem.

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That sounds as exciting as a refrigerator.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:12 PM   #15951
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Folks might want to read the quote again, carefully...
That was a quote from what an inmate added, not the real recall. The recall says:

"On certain motorcycles, transmission oil pressure may be too high, causing the output shaft sealing ring to leak. Oil leakage ahead of the rear tire could render the vehicle unstable. This could result in a crash causing property damage and/or personal injury. Correction: Dealers will install an oil restrictor to reduce oil pressure at the transmssion output."

Original can be found here:

http://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recall...22751r-eng.php

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Looks to me like their saying that this issue does *NOT* affect *PREVIOUS* model years, meaning those prior to this new 2013 model... And further that it clearly that this recall affects those 31 of the new 2013 BMW R1200G/S...
I think you need the full context - the quote above is, as I said, from an inmate, who mixed his own comment into the recall text. Which is pretty bad form, but happens all the time.

The quote I was referring to is (from inmate Marchyman):

"Think about it for a bit... The recall is about transmission pressure. The LC bike doesn't have a separate transmission with its own transmission fluid that can experience high pressure."

I'm not saying that it's not a recall for a bike that wasn't even delivered or for a small number of bikes of the currently outgoing oil/air cooled DOHC model. I'm saying it's unclear.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:17 PM   #15952
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Actually I have to correct myself:

The added line in the quote was not from an inmate but from motorcycle.com:

http://blog.motorcycle.com/2013/02/0...sion-oil-leak/

Don't think they know any more and are guessing as to which model is actually affected.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:18 PM   #15953
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That sounds as exciting as a refrigerator.

One way to look at it... But I like my refrigerator, and it's been reliable as, well... A Yamaha Super Tenere, and for over 15 years. It's great to know you can depend on something.

Of course, my 2008 Ducati D16RR Desmosedici has never given me any trouble, either... Nor did my ol' Hypermotard.

Now my BMW's on the other hand... Geez!

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Old 02-06-2013, 10:24 PM   #15954
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Actually I have to correct myself:

The added line in the quote was not from an inmate but from motorcycle.com:

http://blog.motorcycle.com/2013/02/0...sion-oil-leak/

Don't think they know any more and are guessing as to which model is actually affected.
I was about to say that is from the site itself BUT it still may be wrong...

It may apply to the 2012 2013 model and not the 2013 2013 model if you get what I am saying

http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/...eng&rn=2013040
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:29 PM   #15955
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Recall...

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Actually I have to correct myself:

The added line in the quote was not from an inmate but from motorcycle.com:

http://blog.motorcycle.com/2013/02/0...sion-oil-leak/

Don't think they know any more and are guessing as to which model is actually affected.

Here's the actual Transport Canada description page for the recall:

http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/...chResult&pg=-1


Here's a couple of other pages from there that some may find interesting:

http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/...&ft=&ls=0&sy=0

http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/...&ft=&ls=0&sy=0

I'll still bet this recall is for the new "Water Boxer".

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Old 02-06-2013, 10:31 PM   #15956
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I was about to say that is from the site itself BUT it still may be wrong...

It may apply to the 2012 2013 model and not the 2013 2013 model if you get what I am saying
Yeah, I guess I know what you mean. Best is to read the original for yourself:

http://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recall...22751r-eng.php

And not some online editor's guess work around it. This for example is a 2013 air/oil cooled model:

http://www.aspowersports.com/2013-BM...7&unitBrand=48

So, it's all guess work. And my guess is, it's the old model.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:39 PM   #15957
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Cool2 Reading comprehension again...

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Yeah, I guess I know what you mean. Best is to read the original for yourself:

http://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recall...22751r-eng.php

And not some online editor's guess work around it. This for example is a 2013 air/oil cooled model:

http://www.aspowersports.com/2013-BM...7&unitBrand=48

So, it's all guess work. And my guess is, it's the old model.


Might want to, once again, read *carefully* the info at that second link you provided... You know, this one:

http://www.aspowersports.com/2013-BM...7&unitBrand=48


I really like the part on that page where it says the following:

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"Powerful, refined, and high revving. The R 1200 GS is powered by a new opposed twin engine design delivering 125 hp. Based on a new concept of combined air and liquid cooling and vertical flows through the cylinders, the engine operates efficiently, reliably, and with high torques at all times. Further improvements like the new wet clutch with antihopping feature, the electromotive throttle actuator E-Gas, and the optional “riding modes” make the opposed twin engine the perfect drive solution at the heart of the new R 1200 GS."
The picture may be of an older model, but the text description is pure new 2013 "Vasser Boxer"...

And so is the price.

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Old 02-06-2013, 10:41 PM   #15958
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One way to look at it... But I like my refrigerator, and it's been reliable as, well... A Yamaha Super Tenere, and for over 15 years. It's great to know you can depend on something.

Of course, my 2008 Ducati D16RR Desmosedici has never given me any trouble, either... Nor did my ol' Hypermotard.

Now my BMW's on the other hand... Geez!

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Old 02-06-2013, 10:46 PM   #15959
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Might want to, once again, read *carefully* the info at that second link you provided... You know, this one:
Whoops. Missed that part - they messed up the whole technical details and description part which is for the new model, but the actual offered model is a 2013 Triple Black - there is no Triple Black of the new model.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:26 AM   #15960
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Git,

......................................

So, my question is...

What exactly can they do with the PC-V? (ignition timing, etc.)


Thanks.
TBH I do not actually know, but here's what I think:

Although I am not currently in a position to look at the bike, as I read the instructions, there are only 5 connections.
1 to the throttle position sensor. A tap in to the white wire.
2 to the injectors and
2 to the O2 sensors.

From this I can only assume that the timing is not altered in any way. IMHO there would need to be an ECU male/female plug to do this (as there is on the Harley Davidson version of the PCV).
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