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Old 03-20-2013, 04:09 PM   #16591
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It seems like 95% of the stock screens are mounted wrong, using the top holes, where they are supposed to mount in the lower holes. I don't know if using the wrong mounting points makes for more or less wind turbulence, but mine is mounted low where it's supposed to be and any wind tubulence I get is not enough to even think about for me anyway.
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Old 03-20-2013, 04:26 PM   #16592
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Talking Texas Hill Country & Lone Star M/C Museum This Weekend - March 22 - 24

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Any of you Texas Tenere pilots gonna' been anywhere around the Texas Hill Country this coming weekend - March 22nd - 24th?

I'm meeting up with some guys from the "3rd Coast Ducati" group for some Hill Country twisty fun and visit to the "Lone Start Motorcycle Museum" (http://www.lonestarmotorcyclemuseum.com/) in Vanderpool. Some may not be aware of it, but the owner/curator/restoration wrench/etc. of the museum, Allan Johncock, has been having some health issues so a bunch of us decided we'd ride up, spend the weekend in the Hill Country, and go pay that wonderful gentleman a visit. Would be great to meet up with some of you here while up there and get to ride with ya' in person!

Most of the group is arriving in Kerrville on Friday, March 22, and staying at the YO Ranch Resort Hotel (http://www.yoresort.com/). Plan is to ride all day Saturday and Sunday, with some heading home Sunday evening and others on Monday. Group ranges from ex-expert racers to novices, and bikes from classic '80's Honda's to the latest and greatest Ducati sportbikes, with lots in between. No real routes, etc. laid out yet as this is pretty free-form group... But for this ride everything will be on pavement as all but a couple of bikes are pure street iron.

Post in this thread or drop me a PM if you're interested in meeting up, and I hope to see some of you there this weekend!

Thanks!

Now back to your regularly scheduled "Pluric Sex & Slime" programming...

Dallara



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Old 03-20-2013, 07:18 PM   #16593
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I thought about this excellent bike even before it came out but had some issues so I have waited to get one. Next month they will release the new KTM1190R here in Australia which seems to be a great bike as well but since I can get the XTZ brand new or a demo for AUD$5-7K cheaper I wonder if the new KTM is that much better, a test ride will tell.
What I do not like about the XTZ1200 is: Buffeting from the windshield (is it removable or can I get a super low one for the Australian climate plus a smaller screen or no screen will minimize wind buffeting). Seems to be vibrations from the handlebar? Need to use the clutch at lower speeds, like the shaft drive idea but gearing can not be changed. That the XTZ got around 35% lower power output does not worry me since I got a back up bike if need will be for the drag strip. Tank range? My current DL650 can go up to 500km`s between fill ups and the KTM according to owners in Europe says around 300-400km. My mate got a XTZ1200 and I can see how fast he is on really bad roads, impressive for such a big bike! Need a bit more convincing than the lower price compared to the KTM1190 but price is an issue of course and for AUD$5K+ I can get a lot of extras for the XTZ. Anyone that had buffeting problems that solved that issue? Many thanks for a great forum!
How tall are you?

That plays into the buffeting fix.....


I'm 6'-3" and I got a madstad adjustable bracket (great for GPS Mount too) and the Madstad 20 inch windshield. I prefer it at 90 degrees, makes for a nice bubble of wind free space for me
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:29 PM   #16594
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I find that the standard screen with an adjustable bracket works for me for the buffeting issue.
Same for me. Using the Tobinator bracket.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:06 PM   #16595
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In the beginning with my DL650 I tried to sort out the buffeting with different screens and Madstad bracket but the only thing that reduced the buffeting to almost non existent was to remove the screen, the lower/no screen the less buffeting just clean air which is nice especially when it is hot.
If I ever buy the XT1200 I probably remove the screen completely or get a shorty screen. I`m 5 11 (180cm), the taller the better.
I most likely will get a replacement for my DL soon. Looking at the XT1200, KTM 1190R or a second hand GSA. The retail price for the XT is around AUD$20-21K and for another 3-4 grand I get the KTM that already got low screen, 150 hp, 25-30 kilo lighter e.t.c. but I`m a Yamaha man..... a friend at my work place is willing to let go of his very little used GSA for 1/2 the price what it originally cost but heard a lot of issues that happen to the GS models.
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:30 PM   #16596
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Any of you Texas Tenere pilots gonna' been anywhere around the Texas Hill Country this coming weekend - March 22nd - 24th?

I'm meeting up with some guys from the "3rd Coast Ducati" group for some Hill Country twisty fun and visit to the "Lone Start Motorcycle Museum" (http://www.lonestarmotorcyclemuseum.com/) in Vanderpool. Some may not be aware of it, but the owner/curator/restoration wrench/etc. of the museum, Allan Johncock, has been having some health issues so a bunch of us decided we'd ride up, spend the weekend in the Hill Country, and go pay that wonderful gentleman a visit. Would be great to meet up with some of you here while up there and get to ride with ya' in person!

Most of the group is arriving in Kerrville on Friday, March 22, and staying at the YO Ranch Resort Hotel (http://www.yoresort.com/). Plan is to ride all day Saturday and Sunday, with some heading home Sunday evening and others on Monday. Group ranges from ex-expert racers to novices, and bikes from classic '80's Honda's to the latest and greatest Ducati sportbikes, with lots in between. No real routes, etc. laid out yet as this is pretty free-form group... But for this ride everything will be on pavement as all but a couple of bikes are pure street iron.

Post in this thread or drop me a PM if you're interested in meeting up, and I hope to see some of you there this weekend!

Thanks!

Now back to your regularly scheduled "Pluric Sex & Slime" programming...

Dallara



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BOY! Does that sound great. I haven't ridden down in that part of the earth for a long time. But I'd have to getta snowplow to open my garage to get ol'Blackie (the FAST one) out. Too darn badd. Have a ball. Going skiing, again, instead.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:26 AM   #16597
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In the beginning with my DL650 I tried to sort out the buffeting with different screens and Madstad bracket but the only thing that reduced the buffeting to almost non existent was to remove the screen, the lower/no screen the less buffeting just clean air which is nice especially when it is hot.
If I ever buy the XT1200 I probably remove the screen completely or get a shorty screen. I`m 5 11 (180cm), the taller the better.
I most likely will get a replacement for my DL soon. Looking at the XT1200, KTM 1190R or a second hand GSA. The retail price for the XT is around AUD$20-21K and for another 3-4 grand I get the KTM that already got low screen, 150 hp, 25-30 kilo lighter e.t.c. but I`m a Yamaha man..... a friend at my work place is willing to let go of his very little used GSA for 1/2 the price what it originally cost but heard a lot of issues that happen to the GS models.
Cheers.
Hey Red.

I sold a DL 1K for the S10. As regards the buffeting. It is better on the S10 than a stock Strom for me. A bit worse than a very tilted Madstad though. Basically I used the madstad to get the air off my helmet but still not blowing me off the bike, so my head was in cleanish air but my chest wasn't being a wind sock if you know what I mean.
It's all pretty much solvable with a small amount of money and none of them to date have been that good regardless what the press says.

Good luck with the hunt..Glad I have found the bike I like though
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:14 AM   #16598
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For reliability . . .
It's better to add a small panel than to drill in the plastic sub-frame. Follow the frame to see what all it holds and then think about a crack starting from one of these new mounting holes will do.
The only thing that was modified as the drilling of 4 small screw holes for the bulkhead SAE fitting. This was installed in place of the factory 12V 3A Cig lighter port and this part is not structurally to the bike at all.

The original switched 3A power is used to power my GPS, the SAE connection a fused connection directly to the battery.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:08 PM   #16599
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Most people have this problem and as such there are now many aftermarket screens and adjusters. DO NOT be tempted to buy the larger Yamaha one. It is actually the same size but a bit wider at the top.

Piccy of the "Large" one installed and the original held on top.


I just rode 60km with the bike and I have the wider screen with winglets. It is noisy, but no turbulence at all, and wind on shoulders was minimal. Really happy with this setup.

I was on a R1200GS last year, and I think the S10 have a better airflow with this shield and winglets. Can't compare with the GSA, never rode one.

Will comment a little more when it gets warmer.
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Old 03-21-2013, 04:30 PM   #16600
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Just a little video (sorry a little windy out that day) of the AltRider crash bars and skid plate on my 2013 Tenere and what I think of them..


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Old 03-22-2013, 10:22 AM   #16601
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I thought about this excellent bike even before it came out but had some issues so I have waited to get one. Next month they will release the new KTM1190R here in Australia which seems to be a great bike as well but since I can get the XTZ brand new or a demo for AUD$5-7K cheaper I wonder if the new KTM is that much better, a test ride will tell.
Try to take more than one test ride. If possible, do it on a used one, especially if it has the clutch switch mod.

If the test bike that I rode 3rd had been the first, I would not be a Tenere owner. They are stiff and sluggish till about 1200-1500 miles. Some need a throttle body sync to get past the EPA settings and it can be a big change. Plus, the way that demo bike was set up was horrible.

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What I do not like about the XTZ1200 is: Buffeting from the windshield (is it removable or can I get a super low one for the Australian climate plus a smaller screen or no screen will minimize wind buffeting).
Windshield replacement is almost normal for any bike, including the two Stroms that we've had.

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Seems to be vibrations from the handlebar?
The one needing the throttle body sync had a vibe, mine not so much, and it got better with the sync also.

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Need to use the clutch at lower speeds, like the shaft drive idea but gearing can not be changed.
How much crawling and clutch slipping do you do? If you are off road in the rocks that much is one thing. Traffic is not an issue.

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Tank range? My current DL650 can go up to 500km`s between fill ups and the KTM according to owners in Europe says around 300-400km.
I refill at 200 miles normally, have stretched it to 240, and others report about the same. Obviously, this is more a function of your right wrist and we have folks who can go thru the tank at 32 mpg.

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My mate got a XTZ1200 and I can see how fast he is on really bad roads, impressive for such a big bike!
It usre can and be a heck of a lot of fun doing so!
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Old 03-22-2013, 03:14 PM   #16602
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35000 miles. check the valves, still in spec
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Old 03-22-2013, 03:22 PM   #16603
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35000 miles. check the valves, still in spec
EXCELLENT Kinda amazing that with all the advancements in modern engineering that a motor can run that long without NEEDING valve adjustments.

Yes, this is a poke at BMW. Had one. Wont do that mistake again.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:23 PM   #16604
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Howdy to all. I've put 5000 miles on my S10, and couldn't be happier with my choice in bikes. The first trip was a 6.5 hour trip trip to DC and back...middle of summer, all I95, and half of it in the pouring rain. The bike was comfortable, confident, and powerful.

A few weeks later I rode 4 hours, one way, for a two day camping/riding trip. I overpacked the bike on purpose. I carried enough for a multi week ride. The S10 did great loaded at more than highway speed, and once at camp, tore the forest roads, jeep trails, and single track up! All stock.

I have used my S10 as my primary mode of trans all winter. Some cold days, but with the factory heated grips, larger windscreen, and side screens, I have been comfortable.

I will overtime purchase more aggressive tires, and will upgrade to a better bash plate. Other than that, my S10 will remain factory/stock.

Huge fan here. Glad I picked the bike.
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Old 03-22-2013, 07:09 PM   #16605
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EXCELLENT Kinda amazing that with all the advancements in modern engineering that a motor can run that long without NEEDING valve adjustments.

Yes, this is a poke at BMW. Had one. Wont do that mistake again.
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