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Old 03-27-2013, 12:40 PM   #16741
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Then I see a couple of guys who I appreciate their postings, on S10's, bash Harleys and their riders... kind of puts them in the same position as Harley riders bashing metrics.

I've been riding forty years, on bikes such as Kawasaki 500's, Norton Commandos, older BMW's, Yamaha 650 twins, Triumph 650's and for the last 2.5 years... a Harley Road King Classic and can honestly say that the RKC is one of the most fun bikes I've ever ridden. Not to mention, has been bullet-proof mechanically the entire time.
It's hard to comment on other brands without coming across as bashing.
No one was shouting POS something or other. There is a certain level of generalization
on any brand and comments will focus on known issues.

I honestly tried to get the HD thing. I've had several opportunities to swap bikes and give
them a good test. Sorry, I don't get it. Must be me because I see more of those on the
road than any other brand when traveling.

If I speak of a break down it is with personal experience. I'm not relying on hearsay
or even posted photos. In fifteen years of the group riding with mixed brands I've never had a
Japanese bike not finish a ride. I've never personally seen a BMW shaft fail on a ride.
Enough other stuff to make me cautious of them.

I'm just getting old. Took my Cayman into the dealer today and am trying out a
InfinityG sedan. I'm tired of a stiff ride (down boys) manual shift and Porsche
maintenance schedule. I do have to admit it was disappointing not to have
kids point and turn heads when I was driving the Infiniti. Maybe the dealer can put
loud pipes on it.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:16 PM   #16742
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I'm just getting old. Took my Cayman into the dealer today and am trying out a
InfinityG sedan. I'm tired of a stiff ride (down boys) manual shift and Porsche
maintenance schedule. I do have to admit it was disappointing not to have
kids point and turn heads when I was driving the Infiniti. Maybe the dealer can put
loud pipes on it.
Why don't you pick up a good used Lexus LFA. I'm sure Paris H will get sick of flat batteries sooner or later.

I'm sure the Italian super car forums are full of Lexus Bashing..
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:46 PM   #16743
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Why don't you pick up a good used Lexus LFA. I'm sure Paris H will get sick of flat batteries sooner or later.

I'm sure the Italian super car forums are full of Lexus Bashing..
Opps. Xnay on the car talk ay.

Next this will be down in "Head explody" next to the camera posts.
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Old 03-27-2013, 05:16 PM   #16744
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Pluric pretty much covered my thoughts in his latest post. I like the looks of the Rode King, but I don't understand the whole cruiser thing. If I had the garage space for a bike of every genre, the RK would probably be the choice for that category, but it wouldn't get used very often.

Even the Sportsters lumber along like a fright train and respond to cornering inputs like a cargo ship. I won't even get into the truck-like foot controls. It's just not what I look for in a bike.

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Old 03-27-2013, 05:38 PM   #16745
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...Even the Sportsters lumber along like a fright train and respond to cornering inputs like a cargo ship. I won't even get into the truck-like foot controls. It's just not what I look for in a bike.

Hmmm... Well, I dunno'...

My Harley-Davidson XR1200 Sportster doesn't "lumber" in any way at all, nor does it "respond" anything like a "cargo ship"...





Of course, all that may have something to do with the "Braking" forged aluminum 17" wheels at both ends along with "Braking" stainless steel discs, the Showa BPF fully adjustable forks, terrific YSS "piggyback" shocks out back, and some other changes to improve its steering geometry...

Of maybe it could just be that it hangs out with another one of my bikes (seen on the trailer with it) from time to time and learns by osmosis.

That said, and remember I love my Harley XR, I still don't have the depth of faith in its reliability that I do in my Yamaha Super Tenere. I own lots of bikes now (a Ducati, a Norton, the XR, my S-10, a couple of Honda's, a Kawasaki, and a bunch of vintage CZ's), and goodness only knows all the other ones I've owned in over 40 years of motorcycling... No bike I have ever owned in all that time has inspired the same kind of trust I have in the Super Tenere. With nearly 29,000 miles on it, all of those in 19 months, I can confidently say I would ride it anywhere without even the slightest concern that it might leave me stranded. It's a rock...

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Old 03-27-2013, 05:53 PM   #16746
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Hmmm... Well, I dunno'...

My Harley-Davidson XR1200 Sportster doesn't "lumber" in any way at all, nor does it "respond" anything like a "cargo ship"...





Of course, all that may have something to do with the "Braking" forged aluminum 17" wheels at both ends along with "Braking" stainless steel discs, the Showa BPF fully adjustable forks, terrific YSS "piggyback" shocks out back, and some other changes to improve its steering geometry...

Of maybe it could just be that it hangs out with another one of my bikes (seen on the trailer with it) from time to time and learns by osmosis.

That said, and remember I love my Harley XR, I still don't have the depth of faith in its reliability that I do in my Yamaha Super Tenere. I own lots of bikes now (a Ducati, a Norton, the XR, my S-10, a couple of Honda's, a Kawasaki, and a bunch of vintage CZ's), and goodness only knows all the other ones I've owned in over 40 years of motorcycling... No bike I have ever owned in all that time has inspired the same kind of trust I have in the Super Tenere. With nearly 29,000 miles on it, all of those in 19 months, I can confidently say I would ride it anywhere without even the slightest concern that it might leave me stranded. It's a rock...

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Old 03-27-2013, 05:56 PM   #16747
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Hmmm... Well, I dunno'...




Of maybe it could just be that it hangs out with another one of my bikes (seen on the trailer with it) from time to time and learns by osmosis.



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Old 03-27-2013, 06:13 PM   #16748
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a Harley and a Ducati on a trailer
Makes perfect sense

If I was Dallara I would put the Tenere in front as if pulling the trailer
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:44 PM   #16749
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I think we can laugh at ourselves plenty! HD riders love hanging out at HD dealers, same with the BMW crowd...the cafe racer scene love to hang out at pubs/coffee shops and look retro (I used to be one of these...still think its cool!)...and adv riders LOVE their touratech gear and bolt ons.

We all have our quirks and that's why I love us all! I love spending my weekends on bikes hanging with bike people rather than planning my weekend around a trip to Bed-Bath & Beyond before heading over to the Olive Garden...just say'n!

Cheers, y'all.
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:34 PM   #16750
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:43 PM   #16751
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I honestly tried to get the HD thing. I've had several opportunities to swap bikes and give
them a good test. Sorry, I don't get it. Must be me because I see more of those on the
road than any other brand when traveling.
As the phrase goes, horses for courses. Comparing the abilities of a Harley touring bike with a Super Tenere is about as meaningful as comparing a Super Tenere with an R1. The S10 is my go-to bike for back road blasting with friends or exploring off the beaten path. The RK gets the nod for long-distance multiday or two-up touring. It's extremely comfortable over the long haul, carries a ton of luggage and is very quick and nimble for a big touring bike. Have surprised a lot of riders on "faster" bikes...

Not required to dress like a pirate. I wear the same gear on either bike.


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Old 03-27-2013, 07:54 PM   #16752
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Not required to dress like a pirate. I wear the same gear on either bike.
I think you should wear a pirate outfit on the S10 and wear the Whale foreskin suit on the HD.

And take a came.. I mean a Digital Image Capture Device.
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Old 03-27-2013, 08:29 PM   #16753
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I don't understand the Harley thing either although Dallaras looks pretty cool, but is not your normal, which is the legs forward, arms up in the air ect. I'm not the friendliest guy in the world, but it kind of grates on me when I'm following a group of them at about 10mph under the speed limit enduring that sound, most Harleys going the other way carefully plot who they wave to, they will quickly pull the wave in soon as they see a non harley. What gets me is most of these guys if you talk to them used to ride an old Yamaha XS650, Kawasaki KZ1000, whatever, but now they are much too high on the totem pole to acknowledge a non harley as a real motorcycle.
The other side of the coin is the guys who have never ridden a motorcycle, are 45 years old and suddenly want to be cool, Harley is the only option, then they can't ride, make complete fools out of themselves if they live that long.
OK, it's Wed, knock Harley day I don't mean to knock them as there are a lot of harley guys I know that are good guys and I'll add I have a friend with a 2002 Road cruiser hyboy Well I don't know a sportster from a ultra road king, but this guy has 160,000 plus miles and never had the engine apart. Not my cup of tea, but apparently they can go down the road.
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Old 03-27-2013, 08:39 PM   #16754
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I don't understand the Harley thing either although Dallaras looks pretty cool, but is not your normal, which is the legs forward, arms up in the air ect. I'm not the friendliest guy in the world, but it kind of grates on me when I'm following a group of them at about 10mph under the speed limit enduring that sound, most Harleys going the other way carefully plot who they wave to, they will quickly pull the wave in soon as they see a non harley.
If you bring your Wing to Japan I will pass you on my RK in the twisties while wearing a whale foreskin suit and wave to you as I go by.

How's that for a deal?
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:02 PM   #16755
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Cool2 OK, here we go again...

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As the phrase goes, horses for courses. Comparing the abilities of a Harley touring bike with a Super Tenere is about as meaningful as comparing a Super Tenere with an R1.

Whoa there, Big Fella'...

I don't remember anybody else comparing the "abilities" of a Harley to the S-10 until you started comparing the reliability of the two.

But as long as you bring it up, more on that in a moment...


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The S10 is my go-to bike for back road blasting with friends or exploring off the beaten path. The RK gets the nod for long-distance multiday or two-up touring. It's extremely comfortable over the long haul, carries a ton of luggage and is very quick and nimble for a big touring bike.

Perhaps that works for you, but I've owned a couple of big bagger cruisers (a 2006 Yamaha Stratolounger... whoops, I mean Stratoliner S... was my last one) and rented a fair number of H-D baggers (Road King's, Heritage Softail's, Electra Glide's, etc.) on fly-away trips, and IMHO the Super Tenere is a *FAR* more comfortable "long distance multiday" touring mount. It's suspension is certainly better than that 2" travel farce H-D calls "rear suspension"...

And as we all know, "quick and nimble" is most definitely a relative term...


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...I will pass you on my RK in the twisties while wearing a whale foreskin suit and wave to you as I go by.


Oh please, oh please... Do come pick on me while on your Road King!!! Please!!!

Or even while on your S-10. I do so love to get riding lessons from you really, really super fast guys...

BTW, that's some really radical lean angle ya' got working on your Road King in that pic... Bet those guys were impressed.


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