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Old 04-01-2013, 03:49 PM   #16876
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Jamie,

I have some Polly fuses I obtained for just that thing. I will attempt to get into it a bit when I get back from the big trip in a couple of weeks.

It's something that should be sorted.
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Old 04-01-2013, 04:19 PM   #16877
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I picked up some of those heated grip wraps from Aerostich. Love 'em.
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Old 04-01-2013, 04:30 PM   #16878
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Jamie,

I have some Polly fuses I obtained for just that thing. I will attempt to get into it a bit when I get back from the big trip in a couple of weeks.

It's something that should be sorted.
Great! tell me how they work, I need something for this.
Thanks!
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Old 04-01-2013, 04:36 PM   #16879
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Poly Fuses...

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Great! tell me how they work, I need something for this.
Thanks!

Pretty sure these are what GrahamD's referring to... Hope some of this info helps!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resettable_fuse

http://www.te.com/en/products/circui...e-devices.html

http://www.mouser.com/Littelfuse/Res...ZaxfytZ1yznbqt

http://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/pa...tomotive/10537

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Old 04-01-2013, 04:40 PM   #16880
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Once again, please note that these are only my opinions. You'll certainly find plenty who will disagree with me... Especially about this first one!

I am *NOT* a fan of the CJM, or clutch jumper mod. I tried it and didn't like it even before I ever had the ECU re-flash done. There are a myriad of reasons, and you can read all about the pros and cons both here and on the Super Tenere board. You'll find a *TON* of people who will rave about it... But by and large those are folks who have *NOT* ever had a re-flash done. The CJM is definitely *NOT* equivalent to an ECU re-flash. If you ever have the opportunity to try both you will readily realize that.

But mind you, I had my re-flash done for one simple reason - to remove the 1, 2, and 3 gear restrictions that Yamaha placed in their fly-by-wire system for throttle control. I was not expecting big performance gains, etc. I just wanted to free up the factory nannying of the throttle, and the ECUnleashed re-flash did that. It also seemed to smooth out the low-speed fueling (i.e. now mine will idle around with the clutch out, no clutch slipping needed - as it had before - and it pulls smoothly away from there, where before it would buck, stumble, and sometimes stall if you weren't quick and deft with the clutch). Again, you can read tons more about re-flashes elsewhere...

Now after I had the re-flash done I tried the CJM, and guess what? It did *NOTHING*... And I do mean nothing - neither good nor bad. I didn't like the CJM before the re-flash, but you could definitely tell it did something, though to me the CJM was not an improvement. Once the re-flash is done, though, it literally has no effect, period.

As regards to warranty... I will say this about the CJM - it is so easy to put the fuse in and take it out, and there is absolutely no evidence you ever used it, that I doubt it could ever remotely cause you a warranty issue with regards to them somehow *finding* it. No worries there. As for the re-flash affecting warranty... Well, I honestly don't think the dealer has the necessary diagnostics to determine if a re-flash has been done, and even if some did you still have the Magnuson-Moss Act in your corner - i.e. the dealer and/or the factory have to prove that the re-flash caused whatever problem you might have to refuse coverage.

Just FYI... I have been running my re-flash for more than 25,000 miles without an issue, for what it's worth.

OK, on to other things...

Careful with the fender extenders. Quite a few that have mounted them have found they *catch* or *hook* certain skid plates during fork travel. As such they can certainly destroy the fender extender if that happens, and in some cases have busted the fender as well. That may not seem that bad but remember that a brake line goes across the top of the rear part of the stock front fender, and if the fender gets tangled up with the tire if it breaks then so could the brake line... And that could have some disastrous consequences.

Gear indicators are available from the same folks who make the Speedohealer (http://www.healtech-electronics.com/). Personally I'd spend the $$$ on the Speedohealer instead (they both wire in the same on the Super Tenere), but to each his own. I've got a Speedohealer I keep meaning to install (to correct the wildly optimistic speedo on the S-10) and I got one of their gear indicators on a special "deal" when I bought it. I have no intention of installing it so I might as well sell it... If you're interested.

Lots of folks like the Yamaha heated grips... They're pricey, but apparently they put out a ton of heat. Kind of a clunky looking control mount, but there are other options for that. Lots on the forums about alternative heated grips, so do a search and look around. I'm not a fan of heated grips, and don't use 'em, so I'm not one to ask...

Hope this helps, but don't forget that the *Search* function works on both ADVrider and the Super Tenere forums. Try that for your questions and I'm sure you'll find plenty of *answers* and opinions on just about anything you're interested in.

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Dallara ... +1 on the clutch mod ... I have the CJM done with a switch to turn it off when needed ... when you need to start your engine with first gear on ... i't won't start if it is jumped.
Also removed my 'Extendafenda' because it interfered with my bash plate.
Have the OEM heated grips and bought the relocator gadget from Wasp ... great device.
The gear indicator has been a very excellent addition to my gadgets.
What I need from Jason is the rear brake lines and the two plugs for the right engine cover in aluminum anodized in black but he has not a proper site to order ... only by phone or personal messages.
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Old 04-01-2013, 04:58 PM   #16881
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Yep that's the stuff, Just have to get the the fans on/off and continuous run profile OR anyone can just take a stab in the dark and out the finger in the air and try it. But I would hate to be burning out fans to test poly switches if you know what I mean.
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Old 04-02-2013, 06:22 AM   #16882
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I personally think a little experimentation is the best way.

Start with, say a 5A fuse and see if it blows when the fan comes on (usually the highest drain time) and slowly work up if it does.

I would suggest a high air temperature would be an advantage too. (Not that we ever get them in the UK !!)

At least that is IMHO the safest way unless I have no idea what I am talking about which is probable.
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:14 PM   #16883
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I personally think a little experimentation is the best way.

Start with, say a 5A fuse and see if it blows when the fan comes on (usually the highest drain time) and slowly work up if it does.

I would suggest a high air temperature would be an advantage too. (Not that we ever get them in the UK !!)

At least that is IMHO the safest way unless I have no idea what I am talking about which is probable.
I'm intrigued with these Poly Fuses. To test couldn't you just grab your fan to stop it? Wait for the fuse to trip?

The fan on my Tiger warped so that it would rub every revolution and if it happened to stop on the rubbing part it didn't have enough torque to start again. I just got in the habit of reaching down and giving the fan blades a nudge when I saw my temp gauge start to climb.

Would having one of these delay your trouble shooting though? If it resets every time you cycle the key, you could be riding for a while before you noticed the bike overheating?
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:27 PM   #16884
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The poly fuses are like a really slow blow fuse. So they survive big surges, like start up surges, but if you sustain high current, like a stuck motor, they heat up and go high resistance. If the fan is stuck it will be a race to get the poly fuse hot before the fan coils. Sure you can experiment but you sort of want to pick a poly fuse that is too small first so it helps to get an idea what you are actually dealing with. Fans get expensive really quickly.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:03 PM   #16885
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Tenere vs. Suzuki DL1000

I see a lot of stuff here on the Tenere and the DL650, but it is almost as if the DL1000 doesn't exist.

A new DL1000 is coming (for sure, maybe), so dealers are "getting rid" of 2012 DL1000's for $8,500 out the door.

I'm a newbie, just wondering why the DL1000's are rarely mentioned.

You know how it is...just before you buy a bike you start to question everything...

I love the Tenere, just wondering why it costs $4,000 more. Hec, that is almost a KLR.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:40 PM   #16886
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anyone have problems with the clutch? 1 yr old 35000 miles. slipping like crazy. tight as a drum till my big tuneup 2 weeks ago. put in full synthetic, now slippery???
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:43 PM   #16887
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anyone have problems with the clutch? 1 yr old 35000 miles. slipping like crazy. tight as a drum till my big tuneup 2 weeks ago. put in full synthetic, now slippery???
Obvious question but what type of oil, didn't say "Energy Conserving" did it? Synthetic won't make your clutch slip *unless* it has friction modifiers in it.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:53 PM   #16888
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Obvious question but what type of oil, didn't say "Energy Conserving" did it? Synthetic won't make your clutch slip *unless* it has friction modifiers in it.
ticket says max cycle 10w40 16.49 qt
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Old 04-02-2013, 06:13 PM   #16889
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ticket says max cycle 10w40 16.49 qt
I'd be suspicious of an off brand like that. A known brand of synth with the '4T' designation would put me more at ease.
This sounds earily similar to what happened the my bike when I tried some 'car' Mobile One.


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Old 04-02-2013, 06:21 PM   #16890
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I wonder why?

You and I turn our heat on at home....what, 3 or 4 days a year?

i actually purchased some slap-on heated grips from Aerostich, just in case someday.......
Hey snake, I sent you a PM.
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