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Old 04-13-2013, 09:50 AM   #17026
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Most people change the screen or at least get some sort of adjuster as the noise and turbulence at forehead level is a pain. The "big" Yamaha one is only slightly bigger at the corners and leans back a bit - waste of money (my opinion of course).
I was puzzled by this post so took a couple of photos comparing the Yamaha OE and Touring screens.

The Touring is 5cm taller than the original and wider as well.



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Old 04-13-2013, 10:12 AM   #17027
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I was puzzled by this post so took a couple of photos comparing the Yamaha OE and Touring screens.

The Touring is 5cm taller than the original and wider as well.



What makes the difference is not just the size, like everyone tend to talk about... The shape is a lot more curvy than the stock screen and help eliminate buffeting when combined with the winglets. This is what I have and I am 100% happy with my setup.
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:21 AM   #17028
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What makes the difference is not just the size, like everyone tend to talk about... The shape is a lot more curvy than the stock screen and help eliminate buffeting when combined with the winglets. This is what I have and I am 100% happy with my setup.
Likewise, I'm very happy with the Yamaha touring screen and winglets. The only issue is strong crosswinds (which are truly miserable), but that's true of most adventure bikes with screens where the screen is relatively narrow and a long distance from the rider.

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Old 04-13-2013, 10:40 AM   #17029
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I'am 6'4" (193) and i've never ever had any problems with oem screen. I've ordered Touratech's adjuster just to fix the GPS above the tacho, and cause i like the Rally Raid look when the screen is in almost vertical pstn.


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Old 04-13-2013, 05:14 PM   #17030
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I was puzzled by this post so took a couple of photos comparing the Yamaha OE and Touring screens.

The Touring is 5cm taller than the original and wider as well.



All I can say is I must have bought a prototype. I had one of the first bikes made and got the screen almost 3 years ago. Maybe they have made them bigger ???

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Old 04-13-2013, 07:37 PM   #17031
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You gotta be shitn' me....






No offroad yet. Was going to zip tie them but haven't got to it.

Any luck with Yamaha covering this?

When I picked the bike up, service mgr said they had not had any issues with spokes with any of the bikes they had sold and not to worry about it.
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:41 PM   #17032
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First actual broken one I've seen. No threads on the end so I gotta go with broke over nipple loss.
Sorry. I did read where Yamaha bought a new swing arm for similar spoke damage.
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:41 PM   #17033
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I learned the stupid way... have to always check spokes on new bikes
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:49 PM   #17034
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First actual broken one I've seen. No threads on the end so I gotta go with broke over nipple loss.
Sorry. I did read where Yamaha bought a new swing arm for similar spoke damage.
Thanks, I'll check with the dealer on Tuesday. Guess they will get to see a spoke problem.
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:56 PM   #17035
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Three questions for S10 owners:

1. With Yamaha panniers, how wide is the bike's ass? How does this width compare to handlebar width?

2. I believe that some spoked wheels running tubeless tires are designed so the spokes attach to the rim outside the bead along which the rim and tire meet; ergo, no issues re air escaping through spoke holes.

I think Yamaha does not use this design.

So what keeps the air in the tire? How reliable is this system?

3. Does the reflash void the warranty?

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Old 04-13-2013, 09:09 PM   #17036
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1. With Yamaha panniers, how wide is the bike's ass? How does this width compare to handlebar width?
They're comfortably narrower than the handlebars. I recall measuring around 34" at one time (and posted it in the S10 forum), but could be off a smidge. They're much narrower than most of the aftermaket systems.

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2. I believe that some spoked wheels running tubeless tires are designed so the spokes attach to the rim outside the bead along which the rim and tire meet; ergo, no issues re air escaping through spoke holes.

I think Yamaha does not use this design.

So what keeps the air in the tire? How reliable is this system?
Yamaha uses a system where the spokes attach to flanges in the center of the rim rather than the BMW system of attaching at the edges. In both systems, the rim does not have spoke holes in the pressurized area.

There are no issues with holding air, but some (see a few posts above) have had spoke loosening/breakage issues, probably aggravated by heavier loads and rough use. It's not clear whether it is a one-off issue with certain bikes having weaker wheels due to wheel build variances or whether it is more of a general weak-design problem. Spoke tension monitoring and perhaps occasional adjustment should definitely be on your maintenance list. I do it at tire changes.

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3. Does the reflash void the warranty?
Hard to be definitive on this depending on a lot of factors. Generally, Yamaha has been generous in allowing mods and keeping the warranty in place, but I certainly wouldn't want to be bringing in a bike for warranty repairs with a fried ECU after a flash. Devil is in the details on this.

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Old 04-13-2013, 09:18 PM   #17037
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The Yamaha panniers are 35 inches (89 cm) wide.
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Old 04-13-2013, 09:29 PM   #17038
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There are no issues with holding air, but some (see a few posts above) have had spoke loosening/breakage issues, probably aggravated by heavier loads and rough use.
741 miles- still taking it easy, no offroad, no bags, and I weigh 150.

Poor quality control or assembly.
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:02 PM   #17039
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741 miles- still taking it easy, no offroad, no bags, and I weigh 150.

Poor quality control or assembly.
This sounds like simply a bad spoke. I'm sure Yamaha will cover it, but you may have to push a little if you want them to replace the swingarm because of the scratches. A little sanding and touch-up paint would probably make it 95% as good as new, but on a new bike, you hate to accept any compromises.

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Old 04-14-2013, 12:26 AM   #17040
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I don't understand this spoke issue... I'm doing hard off road most of the time, just did more than 3000 in the desert... and they still ok... really odd.

Hope you have good luck with the guarantee...
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