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Old 04-15-2013, 04:14 PM   #17146
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Just a short video of how to convert the factory Yamaha rear rack to a flat cargo area..
Thanks for the video.

Don't the size changes of the allen heads directly correspond to the size of the bolt and the respective forces of what is being bolted down? The bike would weigh too much if the lowest common denominator bolt was used for the biggest force and thing being bolted down, i.e. 8mm for all the bolts in the rear.
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:39 PM   #17147
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Thanks for the video.

Don't the size changes of the allen heads directly correspond to the size of the bolt and the respective forces of what is being bolted down? The bike would weigh too much if the lowest common denominator bolt was used for the biggest force and thing being bolted down, i.e. 8mm for all the bolts in the rear.
I hear ya and wouldn't expect them to make all the fasteners on the entire bike the same size, but you think they would at least make the ones directly related to removing the seat and rack which are all in the same area or necessary to remove one to get to the other related part the same size???
I would gladly give up a few oz in weight savings to have common sizes on related parts/pieces..
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:22 PM   #17148
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What would you need the access underneath the passenger seat and rack while on the road?

Probably comes down to cost and the ability to meet minimum standards without having to over-engineer. You jump between and M5 and M8 bolt on the sub-frame. Would it make sense to use M5's to hold the passenger grab bars? Wouldn't it be overkill to hold the seat down with M8 bolts? You could use mulitple smaller bolts to equal the same bolt pressure of one big one but now you're entering a grey area where at one point, you may/will surpass the savings of using one big bolt instead of numerous small ones. Now you're also having to add extra steps during the manufacturing process if you were to use multiple fasteners.

Also, you're going to restrict design by trying to work around a fastener that has specific specifications whereas the engineer can design the part and adapt the proper fastener for the job.

Like most engineers, we can do things to make it simplistic or convenient but we'll always be limited to the finances.
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:24 PM   #17149
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Thanks for the feed back...I think I am ordering the Altrider bars
Get the rumbux. My bike hits asphalt regularly and has never don more than scratch the bars. Here it got blown over fully loaded.

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Old 04-15-2013, 05:33 PM   #17150
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Get the rumbux. My bike hits asphalt regularly and has never don more than scratch the bars. Here it got blown over fully loaded.


I have to honestly say they are above my budget at the moment and I have several trips coming up. Worried about shipping times as well.

Alt rider bars are pretty stout and I think I may have a source to expand/re enforce them for me.

But yes those are impressive looking bars and skid plate combo
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:35 PM   #17151
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Since the bike has some down time, just ordered some Jesse 10" bags- 105L compared to the 72L I've had for years. Should cut down on some of the stuff strapped down on the back.
I just ordered a set today as well
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:44 PM   #17152
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Get the rumbux. My bike hits asphalt regularly and has never don more than scratch the bars. Here it got blown over fully loaded.

Poor Dog.

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Old 04-15-2013, 05:59 PM   #17153
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What would you need the access underneath the passenger seat and rack while on the road?

Probably comes down to cost and the ability to meet minimum standards without having to over-engineer. You jump between and M5 and M8 bolt on the sub-frame. Would it make sense to use M5's to hold the passenger grab bars? Wouldn't it be overkill to hold the seat down with M8 bolts? You could use mulitple smaller bolts to equal the same bolt pressure of one big one but now you're entering a grey area where at one point, you may/will surpass the savings of using one big bolt instead of numerous small ones. Now you're also having to add extra steps during the manufacturing process if you were to use multiple fasteners.

Also, you're going to restrict design by trying to work around a fastener that has specific specifications whereas the engineer can design the part and adapt the proper fastener for the job.

Like most engineers, we can do things to make it simplistic or convenient but we'll always be limited to the finances.
LOL-- I was just sounding off for a second... Everyone relax I'm not gonna sell the POS just yet over the "known bolt issue"...
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:13 PM   #17154
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After reading through the thread, I felt compelled to go check my spokes...

The front was only slightly loose but what I found really odd was ALL the spokes on the driveshaft side of the rear wheel were loose to very loose. The opposing side were all a little loose - kinda like the front wheel.

I'm just closing in on 3000. I did my first oil change and was looking for other things to check. Glad I did!
I have only found a couple of loose spokes on my bike none on the front and the loose ones were also on the rear, drive shaft side. I figure it must be the torque on the rear wheel causing this.
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:44 PM   #17155
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Do you operate motorcycle mobile 2 meter?

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Old 04-15-2013, 09:02 PM   #17156
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I have to honestly say they are above my budget at the moment and I have several trips coming up. Worried about shipping times as well.

Alt rider bars are pretty stout and I think I may have a source to expand/re enforce them for me.

But yes those are impressive looking bars and skid plate combo
I hear ya there. I didnt wanna pay 750 but im ruff on stuff
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:03 PM   #17157
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Poor Dog.

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The dog was inside having lunch with me
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:29 PM   #17158
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The dog was inside having lunch with me
Obviously wasn't a Korean place.



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Old 04-15-2013, 09:34 PM   #17159
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Obviously wasn't a Korean place.



What? Dogs don't eat dog? I think you could be wrong about that.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:44 PM   #17160
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What? Dogs don't eat dog? I think you could be wrong about that.

Well, dogs do eat dog poop... does that count?

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