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Old 09-15-2013, 09:38 AM   #19801
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Old Git Ray, I just noticed the link to the story of your adventures. I could say that it has cost me an entire Saturday night, but in truth, it has been time well-spent. I guess the only way to really know one's own country is to see it through the eyes of a visitor. Fascinating!

By the way, Yamaha should pay you for selling Super Teneres. You are making it look like the serious workhorse that it is.
Thank you. It is mainly aimed at keeping our family up to date as well as a diary for us. It is also a lot of work to do, especially if we leave it for a few days.

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Yeah, I have no problem with their road grip on dry surfaces. The issue I have is right now is the rear tire has worn into a square shape, but still has tread left, soooo, when I'm leaning into a corner, the lean rate is gradual at first, but becomes very sudden when the square edge of the tire is reached. Pretty unsettling at times I recon it's time to bite the bullet and buy another rear tire.
The way I see it, the K60s have a place in the grand scheme of things. They are designed for long distance steady mileage. Not for canyon blasting, wet weather testing or serious off road. In this respect they do a very good job. The guy that has clocked up 100k miles only used 4 sets.
In simple terms a hard tyre (K60) will last long but give crap performance, a grippy tyre will last only a few thousand miles but will be a blast in the meantime.
Previously I used TCKs and could hang out with the sports bikes but the last rear only gave me 3000 miles and I lost half of that in 3 days canyon blasting in Spain.

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Good. Next time I need a rim job I know who to call.
I always have to read your posts several times till I figure out which of the many possible meanings to respond to.
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Old 09-15-2013, 09:47 AM   #19802
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I always have to read your posts several times till I figure out which of the many possible meanings to respond to.
It is probably best not to read pluric's posts.

I do enjoy them.
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Old 09-15-2013, 11:12 AM   #19803
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I find the S mode to be too abrupt for subtle throttle adjustments and the T mode too tame.
That was bugging me too. Ended up getting a custom map which gave T excellent performance. Got rid of the hit and gave it good linear power.
"T"oo much fun now.
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Old 09-15-2013, 02:17 PM   #19804
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Oh, Rick. The spokes are hand tight now
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I always have to read your posts several times till I figure out which of the many possible meanings to respond to.
Yeah, I can't decide if you're better at hand jobs or rim jobs.

I'll let William42 be the judge if that.

Nice blog update by the way.
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Old 09-15-2013, 02:21 PM   #19805
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That was bugging me too. Ended up getting a custom map which gave T excellent performance. Got rid of the hit and gave it good linear power.
"T"oo much fun now.
Who did the custom mapping?
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Old 09-15-2013, 02:41 PM   #19806
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Who did the custom mapping?
Somebody recently requested an ECU-unleashed Flash gen 2 S-mode with an OEM T-mode. Or something similar.
Is this that custom flash?
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Old 09-15-2013, 04:16 PM   #19807
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Thanks,
Was this on your 800? What size do you run on that?
Yes, on the 800 XC..150/17. Just installed the E07 "Dakar" version this past week. The front E07 ain't anything special.
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Old 09-15-2013, 05:00 PM   #19808
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Who did the custom mapping?
Ed had set it up through ECUnleashed to do the map for me. A lot of back and forth to get it right but it finally worked. I wanted to keep the latest S-mode but go back to the prior (first update) T-mode because it offered better performance for my bike. With this custom I do not think they used the exact T map from before, but more they smoothed out the S-mode. So far I have only put 400 miles on the new map but a few findings are:

1. Pulls harder than any prior T mode.
2. Power band is more linear and has a broader range (less shifting).
3. Fuel mileage seems to have not suffered (but will need more miles to verify).
4. Smooth throttle response at freeway speeds.

The only surprise is that it's harder to distinct between S and T now and I can get the TCS light to come on under hard acceleration. Could not with old T. But the objective for me was to get an all-around good performing T but still have the drag race-ability of S. I'm still getting to know it but so far I'm really liking the update and feel that it's real close to what I was looking for.

By the way, there was never a Gen-1, only a Gen-2 and Gen-2 "update" (latest), adding to a lot confusion through all of this.
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Old 09-15-2013, 05:15 PM   #19809
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Yeah, I can't decide if you're better at hand jobs or rim jobs.
I rest my case..

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Nice blog update by the way.
Thanks...I think....
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Old 09-15-2013, 05:28 PM   #19810
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Yeah, I have no problem with their road grip on dry surfaces. The issue I have is right now is the rear tire has worn into a square shape, but still has tread left, soooo, when I'm leaning into a corner, the lean rate is gradual at first, but becomes very sudden when the square edge of the tire is reached. Pretty unsettling at times I recon it's time to bite the bullet and buy another rear tire.
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That's exactly what happened to me. Still had more mileage left on the tire but the lean-in was no longer progressive, to put it mildly.
Sissies....isn't this darksider handling? They all say they have way more traction..run over to perfect line, I think there is some recent threadwork on it..










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Old 09-15-2013, 06:03 PM   #19811
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Thanks for the info. Seems like they should go the distance I'm looking to run. I installed the Dakar version in front and the normal 3 ply in back, thats all they had in stock when I ordered. From what I understand they are identical except for sidewall stiffness.
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Old 09-15-2013, 06:49 PM   #19812
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Thank you. It is mainly aimed at keeping our family up to date as well as a diary for us. It is also a lot of work to do, especially if we leave it for a few days.
Plus one on the blog. I find it very interesting to read your take on the US. I had hoped I could meet you guys when you were in the eastern US but I was at the Isle of Man for the TT then. Anyway I am glad that you both have enjoyed your time in the states and that the rest of your journey goes well.
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:10 PM   #19813
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The only surprise is that it's harder to distinct between S and T now
To each his own but for me that would defeat the purpose of T mode. Have the Gen II update and spend 99 percent of the time in S mode but that 1 percent I'm in T mode I really value its mild power characteristics as I'm on very slippery roads.
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:35 PM   #19814
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I've been running 31psi on the Dakar E07 rear and the bike(800xc) handles great. About 2,000 miles so far and it looks like new. Can't comment on the front, running an IRC TR8 up there.
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Old 09-15-2013, 08:36 PM   #19815
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T-mode nice for rock crawling too. Especially 2-up and you are trying to pick your lines while staying around 10-15 mph.
This 1200 twin is just perfect for that situation. Like a John Deere.
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