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Old 09-30-2013, 10:06 AM   #19951
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I was channeling my "inner Wan"... although not two up.
What kind of tires did you have on this ride?

Looks like fun, almost had a detour down the hill at around 3:45.
These are the kinds of roads I hope I find on my Versys, I just ride them a bit slower than you do on the Tenere.
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:12 AM   #19952
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^^^ he had K60s on it.
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:49 AM   #19953
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Or *have* ridden a flashed bike and are just galled at the thought of throwing $500 at a bike that should have been right for its $13K price.

Bottom line...stay out of WOT above 5K RPM and the CJM will do just fine.
Do your really ride like that?
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:54 AM   #19954
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Could out of synch throttle bodies cause the vibration?
AFAIK the synch will only effect very low throttle openings. It is a fine tune and when the throttle bodies are halfway open (like when fast cruising) any difference will be so minimal as to not be noticeable.

Of course I could be talking bollocks which is more likely.

Anyway, seems from your last that your house is not yet sorted. How is it going ?
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:21 AM   #19955
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Could out of synch throttle bodies cause the vibration?
Might have somthing here:

"What are the symptoms of throttle bodies being out of synch?"

Increased vibration - TBS balances the power output of the cylinders (vacuum level is an indication of power output - less vacuum means that throttle plate is open further, and the cylinder is working harder relative to the other cylinder).

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http://www.stromtrooper.com/dl1000-2...out-synch.html
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:36 AM   #19956
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AFAIK the synch will only effect very low throttle openings. It is a fine tune and when the throttle bodies are halfway open (like when fast cruising) any difference will be so minimal as to not be noticeable.

Of course I could be talking bollocks which is more likely.

Anyway, seems from your last that your house is not yet sorted. How is it going ?
Hi Ray,
The exterior walls are up as is the roof. The tar paper is on and the shingles will go on tomorrow. The interior walls are roughed in. The plumber showed up yesterday (yes, Sunday) at 9:00 AM and worked until 7:30 PM. He's finishing up today for an inspection tomorrow. It's all blindingly fast. The contractor is cracking that whip. He thinks we'll be in by Christmas. It would be a nice present.

How's the journey? Our best to you and Karen.
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:52 AM   #19957
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From same thread as noted above:

Ok, here are a few symptoms that you will find when you are due for a throttle body synch.

1) - Increased vibration at all rpm. It is hard to pick up at idle, you'll certainly notice it at the smooth spot (DL1000) between 4 - 5.5k rpm. At 4.5k the 1000 should be damn near smooth as glass with no vibration at all from the engine, if you feel any it's time. It will also feel very rough on acceleration, to me it sort of sounds like a growling dog. The engine gets a kind of GRRRR sound and feel to it. I know this is quite subjective but that's what comes to my mind. Also a day long trip will start causing numbness in the hands by rides end. 90 degree twins are balanced, when out of tune they induce vibration.
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Old 09-30-2013, 12:10 PM   #19958
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At 4.5k the 1000 should be damn near smooth as glass with no vibration at all from the engine, if you feel any it's time.
This sets an unrealistic expectation of what a TBS can do, especially on the S10. Slog a S10 with a load, up a hill, into a headwind at full throttle and I don't care what the RPM is, you're going to get some serious vibes. (And with the S10's modest RWHP, this situation can happen quite a bit.)

That's the trouble with all these vibes discussion - it so subjective and there are so many variables. My S10 is glass smooth some of the time, has a little thrumming some of the time, and vibes pretty good some of the time, depending on temp, load, RPM, winds, road conditions, etc. I don't think you can put a fine point on it. Certainly if a bike vibes more than "normal" (meaning the average for that model), a TBS can sometimes help.

Someone else suggested riding other examples of the same bike as a good starting point. I completely agree. And more times than not, when someone does this, they come back saying that if the other bike vibrates less, it is only slightly less. Some riders are just particularly sensitive to certain types of vibration and miles and careful tune will only go so far. Some are going to have a problem with virtually any large-displacement twin; others are going to have their hands and feet fall asleep with even the smoothest inline-four. There are even folks complaining about vibration with BMW's six! I think a lot of the perception that vibes get better over time is simply the rider adjusting to the situation.

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Old 09-30-2013, 12:24 PM   #19959
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Hi Ray,
The exterior walls are up as is the roof. The tar paper is on and the shingles will go on tomorrow. The interior walls are roughed in. The plumber showed up yesterday (yes, Sunday) at 9:00 AM and worked until 7:30 PM. He's finishing up today for an inspection tomorrow. It's all blindingly fast. The contractor is cracking that whip. He thinks we'll be in by Christmas. It would be a nice present.

How's the journey? Our best to you and Karen.
Yeah, maybe tell him to slow down just a little....


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Old 09-30-2013, 12:27 PM   #19960
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Yeah, maybe tell him to slow down just a little....


What's wrong with that?
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Old 09-30-2013, 12:28 PM   #19961
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Have to agree with that one Mark, About as subjective as ones perception of "windscreen protection".
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Old 09-30-2013, 01:19 PM   #19962
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Or helmet noise. I don't feel any vibes out of ordinary.
My only complaint goes for the throttle reaction, while crawling through city traffic. Disaster, especially compared to the "holly cow" .
Now, how do i fix that? ECU reflash??

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Old 09-30-2013, 01:44 PM   #19963
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What's wrong with that?
Wasn't sure if it was the before or after.
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Old 09-30-2013, 01:58 PM   #19964
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Wasn't sure if it was the before or after.
Definitely after.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:04 PM   #19965
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Or helmet noise. I don't feel any vibes out of ordinary.
My only complaint goes for the throttle reaction, while crawling through city traffic. Disaster, especially compared to the "holly cow" .
Now, how do i fix that? ECU reflash??

Depends. Are you running it above or below 5,000 rpm?




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