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Old 11-07-2013, 05:13 AM   #20401
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When do prices and availability get announced?
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Old 11-07-2013, 05:34 AM   #20402
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Dang it, AC...

One minute you want more power, and Yamaha gives it to ya'...

But then here ya' are bitchin' about what may have got 'em the "more power" cuz' it won't fit that new skid plate you're putting on your 2012!!!

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Hey now, that's a valid concern. Aftermarket stuff actually fitting on the bike (skid plate, ECU reflash (!), ..... ehm... gremlin bell .....ummmm... tires ... the black ones....) is important.
New model, new fit requirements? That means waiting for that version of accessory to be available.
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Old 11-07-2013, 05:57 AM   #20403
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When do prices and availability get announced?


For the United States, Yamaha USA's official announcement is March 2014.

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Old 11-07-2013, 08:18 AM   #20404
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Okay, disregarding the ZE model... is there any mention of different/better fork springs?
When part numbers become available for the '14, that will answer the "different" question. "Better", well that deeds on your weight, on road/ off road, and you're expectations.

Me, I'm OK with the stock set up on my '12 after a bit of fiddling with it. Sure it could be better but at what price? Soon it will be time to replace the rear shock and service the forks. If I keep the bike it will get upgrades, or perhaps I'll just upgrade the entire bike with a '14.

I like to keep the mods at a minimum, it makes the decision to trade a lot easier.

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Old 11-07-2013, 11:25 AM   #20405
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Hey now, that's a valid concern. Aftermarket stuff actually fitting on the bike (skid plate, ECU reflash (!), ..... ehm... gremlin bell .....ummmm... tires ... the black ones....) is important.
New model, new fit requirements? That means waiting for that version of accessory to be available.
It could also mean the drying up of aftermarket supply for the old model...

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Old 11-07-2013, 11:43 AM   #20406
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most of the time my bike is sideways only the bottom of the panniers hit the ground/pavement. when he top hits i have much bigger problems to worry about. it is a serious tank. i think it can take a beating but it wouldnt be the end of the world to abandon it and replace it. readily available Mercury part.
i dont ride crazy with a loaded bike though.
loose fill cap for venting now. real check vent ordered.
not moving anything. the output of the remote tank goes into the tank vent located by the shifter (now relocated under the seat and to the back). as the main tank gets lower it pulls from the romote tank. the remote tank is always empty before the first click on the fuel guage. this will really come in handy on my alaska trip

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what can i do, he loves to ride.

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he has almost 20000 miles and has been to SLC and met the mighty pluric but i dont think i have a picture of them together


I like it, been thinking of doing the same with a Tenere or GS.

I went from this,



to this




and am thinking about simplifying to a box on the back like you. Micatech cases that open on the side would be perfect.
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:05 PM   #20407
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https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...0930348&type=3

Dunno how well facebook links work from here but the Yamaha Motor page posted the 2014 S-10 album with promo pics and marketing blurb. The Yamaha Motorsports website hasn't posted the Tenere in the 2014 model overview yet.
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:22 PM   #20408
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https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...0930348&type=3

Dunno how well facebook links work from here but the Yamaha Motor page posted the 2014 S-10 album with promo pics and marketing blurb. The Yamaha Motorsports website hasn't posted the Tenere in the 2014 model overview yet.



You won't see the 2014 Super Tenere on the on the Yamaha USA web site for quite some time yet...








But there's plenty of info about both new 2014 Super Tenere models on Yamaha Europe web site. Here's the link to the 2014 Super Tenere *standard*:

http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/eu/produc...er-tenere.aspx

And here's the link to the web pages for the 2014 Super Tenere "E" model with ESA suspension:

http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/eu/produc...er-tenere.aspx

And here's all five pages of the new 2014 models release brochure:














Hope this helps...

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Old 11-07-2013, 02:37 PM   #20409
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Well, that's only because you carry about twice it's rated load!!!

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Old 11-07-2013, 02:42 PM   #20410
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"Better"?

In what way would they be "better" for you? Stiffer? Softer? Straight-wind instead of progressive?

To be honest, with either new 2014 model, I don't think there is anyway anyone could possibly know. Even if Yamaha *said* something somewhere in the product promotional propaganda it would be more akin to "new, improved suspension" than anything specific about the fork springs like "fork springs are now straight-wound with a rate of xx-inch/lbs". Just not gonna' happen... Anything like that is not manufacturer ad-speak.

As for anything actually reported or even anecdotal, I don't think you're going to get anything there, either. After all, no one outside of Yamaha has actually even ridden either of the 2014's, so until that happens you wouldn't even know what Yamaha might even claim about any fork changes would be reasonably true.

In other words, it's a nearly impossible question to answer unless perhaps someone has x-ray vision...

Just out of curiosity, why or what is your more specific question about the fork springs? What kind of answer are you looking for? Have you changed the springs in your current S-10?

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"In what way would they be "better" for you? Stiffer? Softer? Straight-wind instead of progressive?"... "Just out of curiosity, why or what is your more specific question about the fork springs? What kind of answer are you looking for? Have you changed the springs in your current S-10?"

My current S10 is a 1993 Chevrolet S10 pickup. Bought it new.

The Super Tenere XT1200Z was known for excessive dive/rebound during braking. For me it was the slow speed dive/rebound that caused the most handling problems.

Many of the YST members sent their forks to vendors to have the spring and valving corrected.

My simple question is... has this problem been corrected by Yamaha on the 2014 XT1200Z model?
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:54 PM   #20411
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Laugh Still need those x-ray specs, or a job in Yamaha product development to know...

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The Super Tenere XT1200Z was known for excessive dive/rebound during braking. For me it was the slow speed dive/rebound that caused the most handling problems.

Many of the YST members sent their forks to vendors to have the spring and valving corrected.

My simple question is... has this problem been corrected by Yamaha on the 2014 XT1200Z model?


I've had my forks re-done (Stoltec), but that was at 21,000 miles. Up until then it wasn't the springing nor dive that drove me nuts... And I'm a pretty big boy. It was the excessive amount of high-speed compression dampening Yamaha saw fit to build in...

But that's all beside the point.

To answer your "simple question"... How on Earth would anybody know if Yamaha has changed the spring rate, particularly to suit any specific group of riders' preferences?

Nobody's got their hands on one yet... The new 2014's have only been seen sitting on the show stand at EICMA... And Yamaha hasn't released any more so far than has been posted here and on the Super Tenere forum, and that includes parts catalogs, service manuals, etc. They haven't even given a release date for the 2014 models in Europe where they've been shown.

Of course, that said... Let's not forget that the "E" model comes with ESA suspension, which Yamaha says you can adjust to up to 84 separate settings. Does that mean an "E" model would be adjustable enough to produce the fork feel you are looking for?

Who knows? That is until you can ride one...

Dallara


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Old 11-07-2013, 02:55 PM   #20412
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Go on spit it out ! What are you trying to say.

That I hope your Land Rover has a low, low, low first gear...

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Old 11-07-2013, 03:41 PM   #20413
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The Super Tenere XT1200Z was known for excessive dive/rebound during braking.


I swear I must have a freak build. No spokes gone missing, seats OK, no excessive dive. Vibes pretty good. Good fuel economy.

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Old 11-07-2013, 03:49 PM   #20414
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I swear I must have a freak build. No spokes gone missing, seats OK, no excessive dive. Vibes pretty good. Good fuel economy.

Take it out of the garage.
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