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Old 03-24-2014, 08:27 AM   #22366
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Left California (sea level) with 35/32PSI in the tires.

3 days later sitting in a hotel in Durango (7000ft) going over the bike. Found 55PSI in both tires, cold!

Never paid attention to this type of thing before. It was riding very rough. Let a bunch of air out and it was normal again.

I will watch it now doing extreme elevation changes.

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You ought to see what a jet airliner tires get to when traveling at 30,000 + feet! Or better yet, a "surveillance plane" that travels at 80,000 feet +.
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Old 03-24-2014, 08:32 AM   #22367
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Left California (sea level) with 35/32PSI in the tires.

3 days later sitting in a hotel in Durango (7000ft) going over the bike. Found 55PSI in both tires, cold!
Something's fishy here. Even going from sea level to outer space, the pressure measured would be only 35+14.7=49.7. And Durango is at considerably lower elevation than outer space. The measured actual pressure rise (actually a rise in differential between the tire's pressure and ambient pressure) due to decreased atmospheric pressure at 7K feet vs. sea level should be about 3.5 psi. Temp change might account for another couple, but nothing is going to make it go up 20 psi. You've got gauge or some other kind of measurement errors.

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Old 03-24-2014, 08:36 AM   #22368
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You ought to see what a jet airliner tires get to when traveling at 30,000 + feet! Or better yet, a "surveillance plane" that travels at 80,000 feet +.
Again, the maximum possible increase is 14.7 psi (approximately). To an airliner tire which is 200 psi normally, 15 psi extra isn't significant. It is even less significant to a SR-71 which has 425 psi tires.

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Old 03-24-2014, 09:08 AM   #22369
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We lose 3% of our HP per 1000 feet above sea level. My home is at 5800. Do that math!

Lose power? Check
Everything is 100 miles away? Check
Great fuel range? Check
Amazing riding? Check

Give and take!
That is right. Here in Bogotá we are at 2800 meter above sea level, that is about 8600 feet. We had tested machines in dinamometers and they loose about 30% of their advertised power, considering some other 15 % lost on drive shaft and transmission.

That is why I rather have a fuel injection bike, at least it's ECU adjusts the mix for better performance climbing higher or lower.

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Old 03-24-2014, 09:08 AM   #22370
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Mike,
I envy your trip and think the bike looks great. The only recommendation I have is to move the rotopaks to the top of your panniers. Someone else touched on this already, but if the bike goes down, your rotopaks will hit the ground just before your panniers start making sparks on the pavement. I imagine that would be much worse than running out of fuel.
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:11 AM   #22371
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I was skeptical of those "wild claims" of fuel range no matter how easy you are on the throttle. Until it was revealed they were Colorado miles. That's entirely believable. I was stunned at the mileage I was getting there.

However, for you folks that actually live at those elevations, man you pay a huge performance price for those extended miles.

However, considering the playground, it's worth it. :)

In Bogotá, at this altitude, 2600 M (8500 feet) my bike does about 16 to 19 kmts per liter, that is about some 55 miles per US galon.

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Old 03-24-2014, 09:26 AM   #22372
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What would you guys pay for a used Tenere? I'm starting to look more seriously but I'm kind of surprised what people are asking for them. You can buy brand new '12 or '13 models for $11k and people are asking that or more for used bikes. I feel like I should be able to get a pretty nice one for $8500 or so, am I insane?
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:35 AM   #22373
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What would you guys pay for a used Tenere? I'm starting to look more seriously but I'm kind of surprised what people are asking for them. You can buy brand new '12 or '13 models for $11k and people are asking that or more for used bikes. I feel like I should be able to get a pretty nice one for $8500 or so, am I insane?
Most S10's are well-farkled and a lot of owners probably haven't yet accepted the realities of the situation where they've invested $17K in their bikes and they're only worth $10K or so even with accessories. If you are willing to travel to one of the dealers blowing out a new S10 for $11K, I'd buy new. OTOH, if there is a used bike that is outfitted with a lot of stuff that you like, the price you're seeing may start to seem a lot more reasonable.... farkles are expensive. A full-set of luggage, heated grips, skid plate, wind deflectors, crash bars, etc. - suddenly you're looking at a $3K bill at your local friendly Yamaha dealer.

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Old 03-24-2014, 11:30 AM   #22374
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Repeat;

I haven't seen an overpriced Tenere in the USA. New or used. Ask folks around the world. They are a steal.

This weekend, as we were coming off a 45mile dirt road with 7 or 8 creek crossings, and as many bump gates, we started back to camp via one of the "twisted sisters" here in the Texas Hill Country. When I was leaned over in a sharp uphill decreasing radius right hander, my boot was scraping pavement. I had a huge grin behind my dusty bug splattered visor.

MSRP was underpriced for that moment.
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Old 03-24-2014, 02:13 PM   #22375
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My first few outings on my new 2013 had me scratching my head about downshifting. I realized that at times, I hadn't allowed the shifter to completely reset (I was still pushing down on it slightly) before attempting to downshift again.

The cure, adjusted the shifter height and all was good.
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Old 03-24-2014, 03:04 PM   #22376
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What would you guys pay for a used Tenere? I'm starting to look more seriously but I'm kind of surprised what people are asking for them. You can buy brand new '12 or '13 models for $11k and people are asking that or more for used bikes. I feel like I should be able to get a pretty nice one for $8500 or so, am I insane?
Buy a new one with no accessories for $11K or a used one all loaded up for the same money with a few miles on it? The decision is yours to make.

I bought new as I wanted the peace of mind that I was going to be the one to put all the miles on it until I part with it.

After the first ride, I realized the bike is a bargain at any price!
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Old 03-24-2014, 05:25 PM   #22377
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No doubt they are a good value but that doesn't mean I need to over pay for one. I would just buy a new one if I didn't just plunk down $5k getting some work done to my basement so I'd like to save a few grand if possible.


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Old 03-24-2014, 06:13 PM   #22378
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You ought to see what a jet airliner tires get to when traveling at 30,000 + feet! Or better yet, a "surveillance plane" that travels at 80,000 feet +.
Jet aircraft use nitrogen in their tires which has a much lower pressure change at altitude than plain old air. Trivia of the day.
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Old 03-24-2014, 06:21 PM   #22379
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What would you guys pay for a used Tenere? I'm starting to look more seriously but I'm kind of surprised what people are asking for them. You can buy brand new '12 or '13 models for $11k and people are asking that or more for used bikes. I feel like I should be able to get a pretty nice one for $8500 or so, am I insane?
Let's face it, the bike is pretty bulletproof and most of the middle aged demographic who buy them treat them well. If I found a used one that was accessorized the way I wanted I wouldn't hesitate to buy it and save thousands. Those mods/accessories add up!

In fact that's what I did. I bought mine with 2,500 miles on it and save about $3K over a new one. Not a single issue other than the headlight harness, which would have had to be replaced on the new bike.
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Old 03-24-2014, 06:44 PM   #22380
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Jet aircraft use nitrogen in their tires which has a much lower pressure change at altitude than plain old air. Trivia of the day.
Hows that work then ?

I thought a gas under pressure (inert ones anyway) reacts the same to pressure changes regardless of what it is.

I am genuinely confused (honestly). Please explain.
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