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Old 11-04-2008, 08:43 AM   #316
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Nothing interesting from Honda either. Still it was an exceptionally good year last year (Tenere, F800GS, new Transalp etc...), so maybe we were expecting too much this time.
We finally got the F800GS in the states. The Tenere, Transalp...sadly still not happening here. Thanks for nothing Yamaha and Honda.

When (if) my Wee-strom sells I am in the market and that leaves the BMW 1200GS as the only choice. My experience, and those of a close friend with his 950, rules KTM out.

Not much left for a choice. Situation normal.
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Old 11-04-2008, 08:59 AM   #317
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You never know, by then maybe Triumph will have launched the 675 Tiger...
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:52 AM   #318
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The Street Triple is darned close to a 675 Tiger.
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Old 11-04-2008, 11:27 AM   #319
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Sorry, Yamaha. The KTM SMT990 just knocked it out of the park.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:14 PM   #320
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The Street Triple is darned close to a 675 Tiger.
The rumours are that triumph intend the 675 tiger to be more off-road capable to fill the gap left by the old tiger. I guess that means 19" or 21" front wheel at least. But when? & do I have the energy to wait for more vaporware
Might find out more at the UK NEC end of this month.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:32 PM   #321
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SMT is totally different category, but at least it's there.

To me it seems it is very heavy (196 kg dry) limited suspension travel brilliant do it all on paved road bike, which it was intended to be according to KTM. Except that "heavy" part.
They advertise SMT with mentioning of lightest in class engine of 58 kilos and only 11 kg frame. So - where to other 129 kg went???

I am dissapointed with absence of 690 adventure, and piece of plastic stuck on top of 990 SM not going to make up for it
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:44 PM   #322
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SMT is totally different category, but at least it's there.
To me it seems it is very heavy (196 kg dry) limited suspension travel brilliant do it all on paved road bike
An upright, sports-touring, 'all roads' bike is what I'd want. Like the Triumph 1050 but with style. Having tried - and failed - to ride a big trailie off-road, I'd be happy with the SMT for weekends away and tours in Europe.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:50 PM   #323
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Of course. As I said - it's brilliant (except weight). It's just nothing to do with virtual potential or expected segment that new Superten would have been for...God, how can I fit more "may have been" in same sentence? Help me out :)

This is year of of bike makers decline...
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:53 PM   #324
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Of course. As I said - it's brilliant (except weight). It's just nothing to do with virtual potential or expected segment that new Superten would have been for...God, how can I fit more "may have been" in same sentence? Help me out :)

This is year of of bike makers decline...
Oh, I wasn't disagreeing really. I've just realised I dont have the skill/size/determination to run a big GS, Vstrom, 'new' S10 etc off road.

I'm accepting my limitations
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Old 11-04-2008, 01:02 PM   #325
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my Dutch friends from DR Big club have totally changed me on that matter. I thought I would could never do what they made me to - ride DR800 offroad, like real offroad. I actually bought it for that. And I totally love it now, thou I am still learning. That's why I kinda whimping about emptyness of that category
Problem is - Aprillia shown so much of that type of bikes in Cologne, that it is not that exciting to see KTM do same. But they done homework well, no questions.
If I'd tour Europe again I'd have look at new Ducati GT1000 Touring. I only sat on it, but OH how comfortable and well made is that thing, amazing. Totally different animal to SMT of course, but actually perfomance wise would not be that far judging by other Ducati Classics
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Old 11-04-2008, 01:23 PM   #326
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The rumours are that triumph intend the 675 tiger to be more off-road capable to fill the gap left by the old tiger. I guess that means 19" or 21" front wheel at least. But when? & do I have the energy to wait for more vaporware
Might find out more at the UK NEC end of this month.
My take is that the 675 engine isn't configured well to to off road and I wonder if it can be. As a triple, I'm somewhat skeptical that the standard tweaks of new cams and ECU will make enough of a difference. In theory, it may challenge the BMW F twins, but as an engineering reality, I doubt it would.
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Old 11-04-2008, 01:28 PM   #327
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my Dutch friends from DR Big club have totally changed me on that matter. I thought I would could never do what they made me to - ride DR800 offroad, like real offroad.
I spent the weekend off-roading with the UK Super Tenere group - they're better riders than I'll ever be . But it helped me put things in perspective.

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Old 11-05-2008, 12:58 AM   #328
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a friend of mine told me he could look at "the thing". just for few minutes. but he confirmed that in Eicma Yamaha will show the new tenerč 1200.
115 hp, the bike that yamaha will show has allu cases.
and, great thing, 21" front wheel.
In two days we will know everyting!!!!
stay tuned with milan eicma show!!!
Hi Tristano, Just returned from a business trip (no internet access) to find that you are competing with MCN mag, for the bull-shitter of the year award
Preying on eager adventure bikers like that is just not cricket old-chap.
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:06 AM   #329
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I spent the weekend off-roading with the UK Super Tenere group - they're better riders than I'll ever be . But it helped me put things in perspective.

Nice picture Ray, bikes look in fine condition. Those slimey hills & ruts can soon catch you out if you loose concentration for a mo
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:19 AM   #330
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My take is that the 675 engine isn't configured well to to off road and I wonder if it can be. As a triple, I'm somewhat skeptical that the standard tweaks of new cams and ECU will make enough of a difference. In theory, it may challenge the BMW F twins, but as an engineering reality, I doubt it would.
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I think thats a good point, it will probably not make an ideal mud plugging bike, but may be OK for the light adventure/tourer market - if it ever surfaces that is ??
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