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Old 10-26-2009, 01:14 PM   #616
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Hey, y'all! Here's a piccie of the engine of the new to come(in2010) Super Tenere; send to me by my dealer. look and judge!
Greetz, Hans.
Looks like the Phazer snowmobile motor. No transmission is shown which would be included in the engine case. The Phazer engine is 500cc.

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Old 10-26-2009, 01:20 PM   #617
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i'm a former bmw owner (r1100r then r1100rt) switched to a strom.
i've meet quit a few over the years. the strom was the closest thing to what we wanted from japan inc. most all agree i've talked to it has MANY shortcomings. this new bike appears to address most all of those & that's why i know it will do well.


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Almost the same, I'm not afraid of other brands but if there is a japanese equivalent I'll take it every time. It's funny, but I upgraded from a TDM850 to a Strom and like you at some point the Strom will need to be replaced and if Yamaha gives me a better option I might take it. If they give me a MUCH better option I'll take it sooner than later.

Northrider is correct in that BMW owns that (big GS type) market right now, but that can change. I've met a lot of former BMW owners on Stroms that got sick of the whole BMW thing and went to the Suzuki because it did what they wanted. As for the Varadero story, it was never available here, but from what I've seen there was nothing about it that made me want to switch, maybe I'd change my mind after a ride, but at least not on paper. So Yamaha has there work cut out for them, but if they listen and give what their target audience wants they could get customers from all brands.

I'm not holding my breath either as these things often end dissapointing, but it'll be fun to watch the evolution of rumors and predictions as it gets closer to an unknown release date.
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:25 PM   #618
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that is indeed a 500cc phazer snowmobile motor.
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/pr...l/0/image.aspx
it's the only other inline twin i can find that yami makes. snowmobile line has some tripples but no other twins. i'm sure they used some know how from that motor in producing the sup ten's motor.

i would not trust my dealer for one milisecond if they sent me that pic. it says either they are clueless about their product line or greedy and assume you are clueless. either way not a good shop to deal with imo.

i always wondered how this motor would do (bored out some) in the 660 tenere.
it might only work as a high reving motor matched to a CV tranny.




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Hey, y'all! Here's a piccie of the engine of the new to come(in2010) Super Tenere; send to me by my dealer. look and judge!
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:37 PM   #619
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Old 10-26-2009, 02:55 PM   #620
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that is indeed a 500cc phazer snowmobile motor.
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/pr...l/0/image.aspx
it's the only other inline twin i can find that yami makes. snowmobile line has some tripples but no other twins.
There were some rumours that the S10 would be a triple; so they may be strapping three 400cc's together, or two 500cc's
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:33 PM   #621
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There were some rumours that the S10 would be a triple; so they may be strapping three 400cc's together, or two 500cc's
No, it's a twin as you can see from the concept bike.
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:13 PM   #622
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yea the japanese manufacturers do suck. They make a watered down bloated big dual sport or 2 but very little else in that segment. KTM and BMW are where its at. But the FJR made it here cuz people spoke up so maybe the super 10 makes it here somehow


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Old 10-26-2009, 07:50 PM   #623
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that is indeed a 500cc phazer snowmobile motor.
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/pr...l/0/image.aspx
it's the only other inline twin i can find that yami makes. snowmobile line has some tripples but no other twins. i'm sure they used some know how from that motor in producing the sup ten's motor.

i would not trust my dealer for one milisecond if they sent me that pic. it says either they are clueless about their product line or greedy and assume you are clueless. either way not a good shop to deal with imo.

i always wondered how this motor would do (bored out some) in the 660 tenere.
it might only work as a high reving motor matched to a CV tranny.

Yamaha still makes the TDM and just introduced the 2010 model, just not here. Actually it is their longest running model.
The concept bike has a 270 crank, double overhead cams, 4 valves and a tranny mounted behind the cylinders, all just like a TDM. Just the same, from what I see, that is not going to be the bike for me. That is going to be one heavy, pretend adventure bike.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:45 PM   #624
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Yamaha still makes the TDM and just introduced the 2010 model, just not here. Actually it is their longest running model.
The concept bike has a 270 crank, double overhead cams, 4 valves and a tranny mounted behind the cylinders, all just like a TDM. Just the same, from what I see, that is not going to be the bike for me. That is going to be one heavy, pretend adventure bike.
i stand corrected. got a pic of that motor?
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:16 PM   #625
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i stand corrected. got a pic of that motor?
best I can do: http://www.yamaha-motor-europe.com/p...et/tdm900a.jsp#

Photo3. One correction though, I thought they did away with the five head, but I guess not.
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:00 PM   #626
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Yamaha still makes the TDM and just introduced the 2010 model, just not here. Actually it is their longest running model.
The concept bike has a 270 crank, double overhead cams, 4 valves and a tranny mounted behind the cylinders, all just like a TDM. Just the same, from what I see, that is not going to be the bike for me. That is going to be one heavy, pretend adventure bike.
Good stuff if that's the case, Yamaha picked a rock solid engine just like they did with the 660. I rather go far with a maintenance free engine then something with a lot of cc and hp. I share your fear that it will be for the pretenders, but since I'm extremely happy with my 660 Ten I haven't given up the hope yet. =)
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Old 10-27-2009, 03:37 PM   #627
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Whats so wrong with the TDM? Its an awesome bike, sleek, light and slim. If only it had 21/17 and decent dampeners...
If the super10 has a TDM engine evolution, I'll be extremely happy! Ive owned a TDM, it had a fantastic engine!
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:09 PM   #628
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Whats so wrong with the TDM? Its an awesome bike, sleek, light and slim. If only it had 21/17 and decent dampeners...
If the super10 has a TDM engine evolution, I'll be extremely happy! Ive owned a TDM, it had a fantastic engine!

i could'nt agree more with you....
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:50 AM   #629
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The TDM motor is an evolution of the original Super Tenree, so it would be like completing the circle. It has already been punched out from 750 to 900cc, so I don't how much larger it could grow. Maybe 1000cc?
The newer TDM have an aluminum bridge type frame and still weigh 497# If this is the motor, by the time they add shaft drive, all the eletronic gee gaws, bigger tank, etc, I don't see how this adventure bike could weigh less than 550#. Too heavy for me.
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:58 AM   #630
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At least not going to happen for the US market.
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