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Old 02-08-2011, 09:40 AM   #6766
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I need to get some welding done on my crash bars.

Yamaha ones I am beefing up around the rad etc.

Does anyone know for sure what measures I need to take. I intend to tack weld the extra bits on them remove that whole lot for welding proper.

I appreciate the need to disconnect the battery, but do I need to disconnect the engine ECU and the ABS ECU.

Greg, can you assist perhaps.

Ray

EDIT: Just spoke to the technical department at Yamaha UK, they initially stated the battery only, then after a quick office conference they decided the ECU's should be disconnected to be 100% sure.
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Old 02-08-2011, 09:50 AM   #6767
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I need to get some welding done on my crash bars.

Yamaha ones I am beefing up around the rad etc.

Greg, can you assist perhaps.

Ray
I'm following this, please post pics after your mods I like the Yamaha crash bars but would like to have a little more protection for the sides
So far none of the others interest me, except maybe Altriders
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:25 AM   #6768
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I'm following this, please post pics after your mods I like the Yamaha crash bars but would like to have a little more protection for the sides
So far none of the others interest me, except maybe Altriders
I have arranged for a welder/metalworker to put a couple of bars from the centre(ish) of the horizontal bar, up (and out enough to allow panel removal) to above the centre of the rad then bend forward and join in with the big daft loop under the headlights.
As the whole lot can be removed in one piece ( I have done it) , I will also weld the loop to the two side bits (where the bolts are) to make one complete unit.

I may also then make a couple of guards for the big daft side lamps. It will hopefully dumb them down a bit as they do look seriously aftermarket.

I have it booked in for Monday 14th and will post piccys after that.
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Old 02-08-2011, 02:15 PM   #6769
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I need to get some welding done on my crash bars.

Yamaha ones I am beefing up around the rad etc.

Does anyone know for sure what measures I need to take. I intend to tack weld the extra bits on them remove that whole lot for welding proper.

I appreciate the need to disconnect the battery, but do I need to disconnect the engine ECU and the ABS ECU.

Greg, can you assist perhaps.

Ray

EDIT: Just spoke to the technical department at Yamaha UK, they initially stated the battery only, then after a quick office conference they decided the ECU's should be disconnected to be 100% sure.
How about just take the bars off and work on them off the bike. About 6 bolts does it.
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Old 02-08-2011, 05:13 PM   #6770
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I need to get some welding done on my crash bars.

Yamaha ones I am beefing up around the rad etc.

Does anyone know for sure what measures I need to take. I intend to tack weld the extra bits on them remove that whole lot for welding proper.

I appreciate the need to disconnect the battery, but do I need to disconnect the engine ECU and the ABS ECU.

Greg, can you assist perhaps.

Ray

EDIT: Just spoke to the technical department at Yamaha UK, they initially stated the battery only, then after a quick office conference they decided the ECU's should be disconnected to be 100% sure.
I only disconnected the battery Ray.
Get a good earth directly on the parts you are welding and all should be ok.
at least it was in my case when I fabricated the proto exhaust.

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Old 02-08-2011, 05:32 PM   #6771
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They showed me this when I got my bike too, don't remember what I could check, though I could ask how to get into this mode and share. I recall they explained that the bike checked lots of stuff and you could see how it was checked, like the "idle" setup for the engine, I remember it was set at 14 (14 of 100) don't remember much else though.

I ll check :)
I am a DIY guy, so this is great news. My Duc, love it, but you have to go to dealer for anything as they have the only computer to fix/set stuff.
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Old 02-08-2011, 06:06 PM   #6772
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How's your French? Motojournal tests the S10 in Greece. Lots of mud!

Check out the woops at 9:50 - S10 seems remarkably stable, considering...

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Old 02-08-2011, 06:27 PM   #6773
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That guy putting his leg out like that during a turn is a very bad habbit. He is going to break his ankle one day
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Old 02-08-2011, 07:42 PM   #6774
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That guy putting his leg out like that during a turn is a very bad habbit. He is going to break his ankle one day
Yeah. Why on earth would he do that?
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Old 02-08-2011, 07:51 PM   #6775
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Yeah. Why on earth would he do that?
I think he's been riding super-motards too much. Works on a small, light bike, can't imagine why he thinks it's a good idea on an S10.

Funny, the guys in the vid of the South Africa launch were doing it a lot too - IIRC most of them had dirt bike backgrounds.

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Old 02-08-2011, 08:00 PM   #6776
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Looks like a good ole Rossi dangle.
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Old 02-08-2011, 08:36 PM   #6777
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They showed me this when I got my bike too, don't remember what I could check, though I could ask how to get into this mode and share. I recall they explained that the bike checked lots of stuff and you could see how it was checked, like the "idle" setup for the engine, I remember it was set at 14 (14 of 100) don't remember much else though.

I ll check :)
Where a 14 shows up is 14.7 to 1, it is the stoichiometric fuel to air ratio for perfect combustion. The fuel injection system and the O2 sensor are always fighting to keep things as close as possible.
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Old 02-08-2011, 10:44 PM   #6778
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That guy putting his leg out like that during a turn is a very bad habbit. He is going to break his ankle one day

You really are kidding, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7fn1XndE3o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ufMivhwAK0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkgQ5KYekhM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py-ZZahWCmI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDbWSkTwJdk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_377JApM6hY


Either that or you've never really ridden much off-road at speed, or had to travel roads with lots of broken pavement, chuck holes, loose sand and gravel, sudden unpaved sections, etc., etc., etc....



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Old 02-08-2011, 10:53 PM   #6779
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He was doing it on a paved road. And he was not drifting. I don't really see the benefit of doing what he was doing. If he were to lowside that 600 lb. bike, that leg would do nothing other than break.

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Old 02-09-2011, 01:26 AM   #6780
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I am a foot out kind of guy too. I am from a motocross background and I just find it as a confidence boost. I even do it sometimes on roundabouts in the wet or greasy salt.
Whilst I appreciate what "A Night who sayys Ni", says about breaking a leg, it has not happened to me in 38 years of riding but it has stopped me falling off a lot.

I also like to be able to put my feet on the ground. I cannot abide people that say "Go on an off road course and learn to ride slowly with your feet up". I can do that and it's a lot easier on the S10 than a GSA. But when you are 2 up, carrying a ton of luggage, it's a lot more confidence inspiring just to be able to put the plates on the floor. Its not always possible to stand up either. How many riders do you see going through deep muddy water standing up ?
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