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Old 02-15-2008, 08:01 AM   #61
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The Whiners are a group of motorcyclists that blame the Posers for all their problems.

The Posers are a group of motorcyclists that are smart enough to know that the U.S Of America has the greatest road infrastructure in the world that connects every city, town & hamlet. These Posers buy confortable touring motorcycles to travel these roads but it annoys the Whiners who already enough choices in motorcycles that it would take a life time to test ride them all but its all about attention with Whiners. This is why now you see motorcycles splattered with stickers and carrying enough gear to make it look like it just went around the world in 80 days. But we know the truth, is out for a days ride like all the posers.


The greatest road structure in the 1950's and 60's, but badly deteriorating in todays world.

Poser, whiner, whatever; the point is that an entire class of vehicle is NOT available in this country with only a couple of rare exceptions. If you ride your bike to the corner store to buy milk and nowhere else, that's your business, but you should have the ablility to choose what kind of bike you do it with.

Let's face it, it's the fault of the feds (and the state in certain states, like Commiefornia) who make their regulations and testing so expensive and prohibitive that companies only import what sells in mass; otherwise it's not profitable.

And, I won't even get into how the money that used to pay for roads is now spent.......
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:14 PM   #62
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Finally, the real thing. You, Nortwoods will be the new leader of the Whiners.

The Whiners are a group of motorcyclists that blame the Posers for all their problems.

The Posers are a group of motorcyclists that are smart enough to know that the U.S Of America has the greatest road infrastructure in the world that connects every city, town & hamlet. These Posers buy confortable touring motorcycles to travel these roads but it annoys the Whiners who already enough choices in motorcycles that it would take a life time to test ride them all but its all about attention with Whiners. This is why now you see motorcycles splattered with stickers and carrying enough gear to make it look like it just went around the world in 80 days. But we know the truth, is out for a days ride like all the posers.
A good point, well made..
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Old 02-15-2008, 08:05 PM   #63
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A 1200 parallel twin?
Does it come with a half-gallon of Locktite?
look,s like triumph are building a 1700,cc parallel twin !
http://www.cycleworld.com/article.as...article_id=598
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Old 02-15-2008, 09:08 PM   #64
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I read an article not long ago in Cycleworld identifying the reasons that No one has built a 1000cc plus side by side twin. It has to do with balancing the internals, not saying it can't be done. It just doesnt seem logical, why not a vee or a side by side 900. I cant even imagine what it would be like to ride a bike with 2 YZF 450 singles side by side
The world has moved on, parrellel twins have moved on.

My mate rides a TDM900, I ride a scrambler both parrellel twins, both smooth as, both with 270 degree cranks.

We are both into dirt road touring - these bikes work are narrow and concentrate engine mass.


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Old 02-15-2008, 09:10 PM   #65
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look,s like triumph are building a 1700,cc parallel twin !
http://www.cycleworld.com/article.as...article_id=598

Yeah I saw pic somewhere else today. That'll be interesting to see how they handle the vibration.
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Old 02-16-2008, 03:21 AM   #66
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The largest on/ off road motorcycle Yamaha offers in the US of A is a 250.
Now , some rumor of a 1200. How about something in between,say like a 660. Come on Yamaha, YOU CAN DO IT !
Ehhh, the 660 adventure is allready built, i thought it came out for sale in Norway late autum 2007 as a 2008...
The picture in MCN is of a 660...
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Old 02-16-2008, 05:48 AM   #67
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Ehhh, the 660 adventure is allready built, i thought it came out for sale in Norway late autum 2007 as a 2008...
The picture in MCN is of a 660...
Ehhhh, I don't live in Norway.
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Old 02-17-2008, 02:59 AM   #68
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And I don't see any reason for a 1200cc parallel twin, if it's modelled after the current Ténéré OR the old SuperTen.
Disagree... Who says they're aiming at F800GS? What if they want to compete with the LC8 in hard core performance? Or maybe even the GS1200?

Methinks the appeal of the F800GS, is more about comfort and capablity in a smaller package than the GS1200.

If BMW had built an equivalanet bike, with 100-120 BHP engine for the same size/weight do you think anyone would complain?
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Old 02-17-2008, 06:28 AM   #69
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In the U.K, big Trailies are big sellers. We have gone from about 3000 to well over 12,000 in about 5 years. Most of those sold are BMW GS variants at about £10,000 a pop. I think a lot of riders are leaving race reps as they become too small and too focused for road work, and are waking up to what our European cousins have known for years, that these bikes are, by and large, all you will ever need and are great fun.
Why it's taken Japan inc so long to catch up with the Euro mfgs i'll never know.
I for one will be in the queue for a test ride if Yamaha do the biz, even if it is a road biased machine.
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:54 AM   #70
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In the U.K, big Trailies are big sellers. We have gone from about 3000 to well over 12,000 in about 5 years.
This is true but the incredble interest in the GS800 shows that there has been an unfilled gap in the market for a mid-sized bike that average sized humans might risk taking off-road. What we do not know is how many of those big bike purchasers would have opted for a GS800 sized bike had one been available?

I suspect that most of the big trailies see little or no off-road use and are used as comfortable tarmac tourers. It will be interesting to see if Yamaha can keep the weight low enough to make it a practical dual purpose bike.
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Old 02-18-2008, 03:17 AM   #71
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look,s like triumph are building a 1700,cc parallel twin !
http://www.cycleworld.com/article.as...article_id=598
Another interesting claim about Triumph: "Next up? No denials from Hinckley about a 675 version of the Tiger adventure-bike, appropriately named the Cub."
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Old 04-02-2008, 11:27 AM   #72
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Its 2 months since MCN told everyone that this bike was undergoing testing in Italy. Surprising that no one has spotted or reported on it yet.
Is it a case of MCN flying a kite to sell a few more copies ?
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Old 04-03-2008, 04:51 AM   #73
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I really do hope Yamaha come through with this, and their preferred designation as a 'rally tourer' at least hints that they want to make it off-road capable. As does the off-road specs of the 660 Tenere.

I've recently acquired a '93 Super Tenere and I'm really enjoying it - I have permission from the g/f to consider the 1200 'new' S10 if it comes out..

Oh, and MZ make 1000cc parallel twins btw, they've been knocking 'em out for 4 or 5 years.
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Old 04-03-2008, 08:58 AM   #74
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I see that the seat height on the new 660XT tenere is 895mm. I might just cope with that but if the 1200 is any higher it will rule it out for me.

Just in case you are launching a tenere 1200 Mr Yamaha please bear my pre launch comments in mind.
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Old 04-03-2008, 09:02 AM   #75
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" I've recently acquired a '93 Super Tenere and I'm really enjoying it - I have permission from the g/f to consider the 1200 'new' S10 if it comes out.."

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