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Old 03-27-2011, 02:56 AM   #7576
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Top Shot Robbo.

First time I've seen that angle. That tank does look a bit Strom-ish from up there. (no Offence)
I'll be sure to keep THAT comment away from my mate WeeStrom Mark......
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Old 03-27-2011, 03:09 AM   #7577
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Factory Panniers

I have no issues with them at all. Yes the locks were stiff when new but like most things if I find fault I make a change. In this case I pulled them apart and relieved some pressure from the mechanism which fixed that and they have since done over 4,900 klm on tour in all conditions and they are great, frankly I don't notice them they just do what they need to. The bike now done 9,250klm but the panniers about 8,000 total (the're not always on the bike). BTW, I have been down hard on the r/h side after hitting a roo. Only damage was the bottom black strip wore away but we slid along the tarmac for a long time. The plastic is very strong but not at all brittle. Once home I pulled the pannier apart to inspect, they are very well made. I think they would be water tight even submerged and they are plenty big enough for me. It amazes me how much crap some people take when they travel, camping or otherwise..
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Old 03-27-2011, 05:13 AM   #7578
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I have no issues with them at all. Yes the locks were stiff when new but like most things if I find fault I make a change. In this case I pulled them apart and relieved some pressure from the mechanism which fixed that and they have since done over 4,900 klm on tour in all conditions and they are great, frankly I don't notice them they just do what they need to. The bike now done 9,250klm but the panniers about 8,000 total (the're not always on the bike). BTW, I have been down hard on the r/h side after hitting a roo. Only damage was the bottom black strip wore away but we slid along the tarmac for a long time. The plastic is very strong but not at all brittle. Once home I pulled the pannier apart to inspect, they are very well made. I think they would be water tight even submerged and they are plenty big enough for me. It amazes me how much crap some people take when they travel, camping or otherwise..
Yeah, and whomever mention the screws working loose, ever heard of loctite?
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Old 03-27-2011, 05:25 AM   #7579
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S10 get together, odometer accuracy and fuel consumption

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Had a great ride yesterday and good to put faces with names...
Have to do it again soon..
Also great to see what other mods have been done to bikes and how they work...
Rob's exhaust is music to my ears ... The bike sounds awsome with a pipe on it..
I think we may have got another 100k's under our belt if it wasnt for Mr Weestrom (Mark's ) flapping of gums and cheese fetish .
He must have been giddy being surronded by all that tenere magic.
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Ohh so cruel

Rob, Geoff and CheeseMan, thanks for the ride yesterday. I found my way home no problems and had the road into Bowral to myself! As you may have guessed, I'm still coming to grips with this sized bike on the open road, especially the twisties, where I'm not sure of the limits etc.

For anyone who's interrested, I also tried a few experiments on the way home...

I've known the indicated speed and the actual speed are different, as verified using a GPS. The speedo reads 10% higher. I've always wondered if the odometer is similarly overindicating, so I did a little test to check the odometer accuracy against the GPS. I reset my trip meter and using OziExplore's trip meter, I compared the results once I got home. I also used the cruise control on the freeway to check fuel consumption at highway cruising speeds for future reference. So I reset the average fuel consumption reading on the bike at the same time.

Odometer results: I travelled 123kms by the bike's trip meter and 121.5kms by the GPS. So it's about 1 % overindicated. Unlike the older mechanical speedo/odometer, obviously they are independant when it comes to tolerance/error of measurement. Handy to know when travelling in remote areas.

Fuel consumption results: I was travelling 1-up, unloaded and on a free-flowing freeway, so no stop-start etc. I was mostly sitting on 110kmh (actual by GPS) except for several kms at 80kmh in a road work area. This was on mostly very flat road, with little in the way of hills. Total distance for the test was as above. The indicated fuel consumption was 24.7km/l which is basically 4l/100kms. I noticed there was very little fuel advantage at 80kmh vs 110kmh but going over 110kmh and the fuel consuption rate increases.

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Old 03-27-2011, 10:36 AM   #7580
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Odometer results: I travelled 123kms by the bike's trip meter and 121.5kms by the GPS. So it's about 1 % overindicated. Unlike the older mechanical speedo/odometer, obviously they are independant when it comes to tolerance/error of measurement. Handy to know when travelling in remote areas.
That's pretty accurate, it seems to me that 1% would be within the margin of error of the GPS?

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Fuel consumption results: I was travelling 1-up, unloaded and on a free-flowing freeway, so no stop-start etc. I was mostly sitting on 110kmh (actual by GPS) except for several kms at 80kmh in a road work area. This was on mostly very flat road, with little in the way of hills. Total distance for the test was as above. The indicated fuel consumption was 24.7km/l which is basically 4l/100kms. I noticed there was very little fuel advantage at 80kmh vs 110kmh but going over 110kmh and the fuel consuption rate increases.
Thanks Glenn - those a pretty much ideal conditions, and good results (4/100km = US59mpg = UK70mpg). But I noticed this was indicated on the bike? Did you figure out the ACTUAL at the end?

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Old 03-27-2011, 04:48 PM   #7581
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That's pretty accurate, it seems to me that 1% would be within the margin of error of the GPS?



Thanks Glenn - those a pretty much ideal conditions, and good results (4/100km = US59mpg = UK70mpg). But I noticed this was indicated on the bike? Did you figure out the ACTUAL at the end?

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Trevor,

The kms were accurate but I didn't get an ACTUAL fuel usage, as I would have needed to fill up right before and after the trial, so it's based on the reported usage.

When I get a chance, I'll try it again with actual fuel used, as this would be handy to know as well.

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Old 03-27-2011, 08:50 PM   #7582
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Trevor,

The kms were accurate but I didn't get an ACTUAL fuel usage, as I would have needed to fill up right before and after the trial, so it's based on the reported usage.

When I get a chance, I'll try it again with actual fuel used, as this would be handy to know as well.

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I'll be interested to see whether your fuel usage reading is around 10% optimistic like mine is. You can get a good indication of the error by comparing actual economy between tank fills, as long as you reset your fuel consumption gauge at each fill.

Another thing I have noticed is that since installing cruise control, my economy when cruising freeways improved by about 0.5 l/100kms. I didn't think it would make such a difference.
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Old 03-29-2011, 04:12 PM   #7583
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What's this thread doing on Page 2? Is the s10 Soooo lat year already?
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Old 03-29-2011, 04:31 PM   #7584
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What's this thread doing on Page 2? Is the s10 Soooo lat year already?

well I'm starting to believe this bike doesn't even exist. I think this is an elaborate hoax. Smoke and mirrors
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Old 03-29-2011, 04:32 PM   #7585
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Ethanol in your fuel?

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I am not sure what I have in my fuel here, sometimes I have doubts it’s even fuel!
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Old 03-29-2011, 04:45 PM   #7586
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well I'm starting to believe this bike doesn't even exist. I think this is an elaborate hoax. Smoke and mirrors
I hope not. I have pile of boxes full farkles ready install when it gets here.
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Old 03-30-2011, 07:34 AM   #7587
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well I'm starting to believe this bike doesn't even exist. I think this is an elaborate hoax. Smoke and mirrors
Having been on one and seen them outside of the US, I know that's not true.

What kills me is knowing that I could buy one today in Europe and import essentially the same bike that we'll get whenever they finally arrive on US shores. But it isn't yet on the manufacturer's list, so it'll be impounded at the port for not complying with the EPA or NHTSA regs without big money.
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:43 PM   #7588
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Hmmmm, good things come to those who wait. It is going to be a fun bike. Farkle purchases continue.

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Old 03-31-2011, 01:47 AM   #7589
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What kills me is knowing that I could buy one today in Europe and import
You know what kills me?

I have to wait untill saturday to ride because of work So sad, knowing the Ténéré is in my garage, waiting, just begging to be ridden.

I feel your pain.

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Old 03-31-2011, 02:12 AM   #7590
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