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Old 04-12-2011, 08:23 PM   #7816
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Being on Wasps bike about guarantees it's not stock. No usable stock parts on the Tenere.
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Old 04-12-2011, 11:47 PM   #7817
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I think the foam is a replacement for the paper from what I remember reading from past early posts.

I understand your comment Mark about the paper filters over foam if not in dusty conditions but I like foam filters better, you just have to stay on top of them more with cleaning and oiling them.

Foam works well too for long distance without dust but may require another spray or two of oil before cleaning. Just a personal thing for most I think. I am an old dirt bike guy with foam on the brain.
I think the tradeoffs are pretty well established. Paper universally protects the engine better, but airflow becomes more restricted as the paper loads; foam never restricts, but if you let maintenance slide, it also stops filtering. Paper becomes very expensive if you're in dusty conditions and require frequent replacement. Bottom line is that paper is generally better for a street bike and foam is better for a dirt bike. That's why I would view the swapping of paper with foam to be a negative for most S10 riders unless they're doing a lot of dirt riding. I'm hoping the US S10s keep the Euro paper element.

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Old 04-13-2011, 12:15 AM   #7818
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air filter

All Australian S10s are fitted with foam filters by Yamaha instead of the paper element

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Old 04-13-2011, 05:20 AM   #7819
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Being on Wasps bike about guarantees it's not stock. No usable stock parts on the Tenere.
Not sure about that: the seats are very comfortable, the headlights and tail lights work well and the instrumentation apart from the lack of a gear indicator is clear and the fuel tank is fairly large... I would not change these parts on my bike. However, as with most bikes, there are many parts that can be improved :)
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Old 04-13-2011, 05:48 AM   #7820
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I think you would enjoy this photo gallery

http://www.motociclismo.it/gallery/m...page=1&ipage=1

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Old 04-13-2011, 05:49 AM   #7821
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I think the tradeoffs are pretty well established. Paper universally protects the engine better, but airflow becomes more restricted as the paper loads; foam never restricts, but if you let maintenance slide, it also stops filtering. Paper becomes very expensive if you're in dusty conditions and require frequent replacement. Bottom line is that paper is generally better for a street bike and foam is better for a dirt bike. That's why I would view the swapping of paper with foam to be a negative for most S10 riders unless they're doing a lot of dirt riding. I'm hoping the US S10s keep the Euro paper element.

- Mark
I given the stock paper element for a spare as well as the Uni Filters fitted and I would have to say I was not too impressed with the look of the paper element as their is no rubber seal around where the filter goes into the airbox and it relies on the hard plastic sealing in a hard plastic groove in the airbox, If I were to ever refit it I think it would be with a liberal coating of grease around the lip to stop any ingress of dust between the two surfaces. I was told that the change in filter which also happened to the 660 Tenere was because Australia has some of the finest dust in the world.

A paper element is at its most inefficient when it is brand new and after it starts receiving some dust it then becomes more efficent.

Cheers Rick
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Old 04-13-2011, 06:09 AM   #7822
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ideal engine oil

Hi guys i am riding XT1200 in my country with a climate of 34 degrees so i would like to know what is the ideal engine oil to use for my tenere? can anyone guide me

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Old 04-13-2011, 06:23 AM   #7823
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Hi guys i am riding XT1200 in my country with a climate of 34 degrees so i would like to know what is the ideal engine oil to use for my tenere? can anyone guide me

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Old 04-13-2011, 07:36 AM   #7824
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Question Paper, Foam, or Gauze...

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A paper element is at its most inefficient when it is brand new and after it starts receiving some dust it then becomes more efficent.

Cheers Rick



Really? Do you have any links, etc. with more about this? I'd love to read and hear more about that kind of info...

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Old 04-13-2011, 07:47 AM   #7825
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Small scary world eh?

Paul,

Are you using the Yamaha low seat on your bike? How tall are you/ inseam measurements?

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Old 04-13-2011, 09:12 AM   #7826
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I have the standard seat on the low setting. I'm about 5 ft 10, with a 30 inch inseam. I can flat foot the bike and had no issues after a 300 mile ride on Monday. Comfort, for me, seems A1.
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:27 AM   #7827
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Mechanic type opinion needed S10 10 000km service

Do the items charged for my 10 000km service tie up with what one should expect in 10 000km service on the S10? I thought the costs were reasonable...
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:04 AM   #7828
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Do the items charged for my 10 000km service tie up with what one should expect in 10 000km service on the S10? I thought the costs were reasonable...
Amused to see that "sundries" appears to be a piece of nonsense appended to service bills the world over, Bundu...there's not even a chain to lube.

Hang on though - did they drop the final drive oil?
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:12 AM   #7829
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Amused to see that "sundries" appears to be a piece of nonsense appended to service bills the world over, Bundu...there's not even a chain to lube.
Expensive shop rags, washing for customer pick-up, and beer for the shop crew's lunch.
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:16 AM   #7830
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Hang on though - did they drop the final drive oil?
oddly enough, I asked him if he did and he said "yes", but it's not charged for and not required by the maintenance schedule at 10 000km... but charged for engine oil filter and this was not supposed to have been changed at this service.... Go figure..
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