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Old 07-12-2011, 09:21 AM   #8626
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I don't know about other Yamaha PDP deliveries in different years, but back in 2006 I ordered up an FJR1300 via the PDP, and was scheduled to get one of the very first in the USA. Oddly enough, the delivery date on those 2006 FJR's slipped... and slipped... and the bikes came a couple of months late, ostensibly because of a supply issue having to do with a subcontractor supplying the bags.

Anyway, despite my living in South Texas, and Yamaha having a Texas warehouse, my '06 FJR1300 came directly from the California warehouse, arriving off the truck with a direct bill of lading from California to my dealer in Texas.

Given the apparently small numbers of Super Tenere's coming to the USA it would not surprise me to see something simialr here - i.e. all of the USA S-10's coming out of the California warehouse and POE.

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Old 07-12-2011, 09:30 AM   #8627
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Well it really is getting near time I made a decision on a few things. Tossing up between the SW-Motech and Hepco Becker crash bars.

H&B have a bar joining the two sides, the SWM doesn't but bars come up higher and cover more of the tupperware. Price is roughly the same. I haven't seen a definitive answer on ease of access to remove side panels with the SWM, but the H&B would definitely be no problem.

Does anyone have the H&B and do you have some experience of whether or not they provide enough coverage? Better still, have you crash-tested them!?



The SW Motech bolts at 3 locations on each side.




I like these R&G Racing bars from the UK. They are similar to the SWM but preserve the stock plastic bumper. Anyone who's seen edog200's crash test video knows that this bumper alone can be quite effective in saving the bike in a road crash (might be different on dirt).

They are distributed by Twisted Throttle in the US but they don't have any and don't appear to have plans to get any... bummer.

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Old 07-12-2011, 09:34 AM   #8628
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Given the apparently small numbers of Super Tenere's coming to the USA it would not surprise me to see something simialr here - i.e. all of the USA S-10's coming out of the California warehouse and POE.

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It's sad that Yamaha is only doing it this way, they have no confidence in the US market

In the mean time BMW, Ducati, KTM, Triumph and even Moto-Guzzi with the NTX are all going after the adventure market and have bikes in showrooms

Except for Yamaha
If it wasn't for the reports from Wasp and others in Europe there's no way I would order a bike without being able to at least sit on it and have a feel for weight, ergonomics and overall looks

So, thanks guys, I hope I will not be disappointed
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Old 07-12-2011, 09:42 AM   #8629
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Given the apparently small numbers of Super Tenere's coming to the USA it would not surprise me to see something simialr here - i.e. all of the USA S-10's coming out of the California warehouse and POE.

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That could happen and I hope that you are correct, as mine is one of the first ordered. However, when I check on YDS, it says mine will go to the Chicago warehouse.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:03 AM   #8630
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That could happen and I hope that you are correct, as mine is one of the first ordered. However, when I check on YDS, it says mine will go to the Chicago warehouse.

I understand, and currently my dealer's computer says mine will come out of the Dallas, TX warehouse...

But that's where the computer said my '06 FJR was coming out of, too, the entire time it was on order right up to when it was delivered off the truck to my dealer's doorstep.

I guess we'll all just have to wait and see...

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Old 07-12-2011, 10:18 AM   #8631
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i would expect the same thing. all bikes off the boat and in cali storage. then all bikes on trucks asap across the us. truck teams can long haul across the us in 2 days. not saying that teams will be used but yamaha knows it needs this bike in the hands of owners asap for this riding season. as each dealer probably is getting 1 to 3 bikes on average, trucks will be loaded and delivered regionally w/ the potential for the east coast ones to come in via teams.

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I don't know about other Yamaha PDP deliveries in different years, but back in 2006 I ordered up an FJR1300 via the PDP, and was scheduled to get one of the very first in the USA. Oddly enough, the delivery date on those 2006 FJR's slipped... and slipped... and the bikes came a couple of months late, ostensibly because of a supply issue having to do with a subcontractor supplying the bags.

Anyway, despite my living in South Texas, and Yamaha having a Texas warehouse, my '06 FJR1300 came directly from the California warehouse, arriving off the truck with a direct bill of lading from California to my dealer in Texas.

Given the apparently small numbers of Super Tenere's coming to the USA it would not surprise me to see something simialr here - i.e. all of the USA S-10's coming out of the California warehouse and POE.

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Old 07-12-2011, 10:20 AM   #8632
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w/ the potential for the east coast ones to come in via teams.

Can I be part of a team I will fly to California
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:22 AM   #8633
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I understand, and currently my dealer's computer says mine will come out of the Dallas, TX warehouse...

But that's where the computer said my '06 FJR was coming out of, too, the entire time it was on order right up to when it was delivered off the truck to my dealer's doorstep.

I guess we'll all just have to wait and see...

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i'm bet that was the original plan as the bikes would move with other yamaha bikes and then go out...thus it's still in the computer this way.
logistics have changed since the tsunami and yamaha is in a race with this one. yamaha has alot at stake making this bike successful in the us.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:23 AM   #8634
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Well it really is getting near time I made a decision on a few things. Tossing up between the SW-Motech and Hepco Becker crash bars.

H&B have a bar joining the two sides, the SWM doesn't but bars come up higher and cover more of the tupperware. Price is roughly the same. I haven't seen a definitive answer on ease of access to remove side panels with the SWM, but the H&B would definitely be no problem.

Does anyone have the H&B and do you have some experience of whether or not they provide enough coverage? Better still, have you crash-tested them!?



The SW Motech bolts at 3 locations on each side.




I like these R&G Racing bars from the UK. They are similar to the SWM but preserve the stock plastic bumper. Anyone who's seen edog200's crash test video knows that this bumper alone can be quite effective in saving the bike in a road crash (might be different on dirt).

They are distributed by Twisted Throttle in the US but they don't have any and don't appear to have plans to get any... bummer.

Keep in mind that the SW-MOTECH bars replace the PLASTIC bar with a STEEL tube. We have seen edogs video and in that particular crash on pavement the plastic bar did an excellent job. I doubt I would trust this bar to replace a steel bar in most cases though.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:26 AM   #8635
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That could happen and I hope that you are correct, as mine is one of the first ordered. However, when I check on YDS, it says mine will go to the Chicago warehouse.
i just hope you don't expect to be the first one to get it in your hands as it's not gonna work that way now.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:30 AM   #8636
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is there a consensus as to where the bars should be protecting?
up high or down low? yamaha is protecting lower, whereas most aftermarket is going high. what part really hits 1st? the best looking bars i've seen are the yamaha one with an upper that bolted to it for top to bottom protection. anyone tried to use yamaha's bars (lower) and then see if other high mounts ones will fit together? i like the quality of construction of alt rider stuff http://www.altrider.com/altrider-cra...00z/pcid/600-1 there video showing the bike on it's side https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUUV...layer_embedded shows plenty of lower engine clearance if the bike ends up on it's side.

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Keep in mind that the SW-MOTECH bars replace the PLASTIC bar with a STEEL tube. We have seen edogs video and in that particular crash on pavement the plastic bar did an excellent job. I doubt I would trust this bar to replace a steel bar in most cases though.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:38 AM   #8637
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is there a consensus as to where the bars should be protecting?
up high or down low? yamaha is protecting lower, whereas most aftermarket is going high. what part really hits 1st? the best looking bars i've seen are the yamaha one with an upper that bolted to it for top to bottom protection.
Hi Bill.

The intention of the SW-MOTECH bars is to cover the most surface area. That doesn't always mean a real tall bar. The angle at which the bar sits can do more to cover the upper regions of the "Tupperware" as someone put it. Here is a great video with aftermath to show the SW-MOTECH bars on a Versys. - We have been unable to find a full time crash dummy to do this on purpose - yet.

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Old 07-12-2011, 10:41 AM   #8638
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Keep in mind that the SW-MOTECH bars replace the PLASTIC bar with a STEEL tube. We have seen edogs video and in that particular crash on pavement the plastic bar did an excellent job. I doubt I would trust this bar to replace a steel bar in most cases though.

I guess that's partly my point. The stock plastic did an adequate job on it's own, just needs some help protecting the fan area. The R&G's do that without adding the (presumably) extra weight of another piece of steel on each side.

It's all hairsplitting at this point though!

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Old 07-12-2011, 10:47 AM   #8639
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Hi Bill.

The intention of the SW-MOTECH bars is to cover the most surface area. That doesn't always mean a real tall bar. The angle at which the bar sits can do more to cover the upper regions of the "Tupperware" as someone put it. Here is a great video with aftermath to show the SW-MOTECH bars on a Versys. - We have been unable to find a full time crash dummy to do this on purpose - yet.

How the hell did that happen? he didn't seem to be going that fast
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:58 AM   #8640
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How the hell did that happen? he didn't seem to be going that fast
I share an office with the rider. It was really just a matter of fatigue. He had ridden through tons and tons of hairpins and was wiped. Poor guy having to ride through all of those hairpins all day for a week straight. Needless to say I am a little jealous.
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