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Old 02-03-2010, 10:30 PM   #901
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Yeah i'm stupid but I got so excited when I saw this on the Kool Aid section. Mods can delete it if you want as it is a duplicate. Im still dreaming...but it really looks like it will end up a tank. Shit build one to compete with a 800 or 900 ktms. It has to be able to do offroad not just dirt roads,
it's 1200gs competition so yes it will be a big beast.
yami has the 660 tenere for offroad stuff.
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Old 02-03-2010, 10:40 PM   #902
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it's 1200gs competition so yes it will be a big beast.
yami has the 660 tenere for offroad stuff.
The Tenere has yet to show in the USA, it hit Europe in '08.
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Old 02-03-2010, 10:55 PM   #903
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The Tenere has yet to show in the USA, it hit Europe in '08.
yeah..of course everyone knows that.

think big picture from a mfg stand point.
i'm talking about product placement of the bikes yami makes for possible worldwide sales, not where they are actualy sold. ever bother to look at all the central american market bikes not sold in the us? they're not designing a bike for 1 market alone (though broad regional machines exist like i stated) & they're not making a bike too close to what the 660 tenere already is.

what i'm saying is yami won't have a 800 twin alone in the us (as the only tenere model) nor anywhere else to compete with the 800gs.
they have a 660 thumper tenere & now a 1200 twin tenere. where they get sold is another matter.
end of story, don't expect anything else, period!


these are some bikes found in our neighbor country (not half way across the world)
yet most are completely unknow to US buyers.
http://www.yamaha-motor.com.mx/urbanas.htm
http://www.honda.com.mx/motos/motos-de-trabajo/
http://www.suzuki.com.mx/motos/Urbanas/index.html

if this bike was shown to the average us bike consumer and asked what year was it made, most would say 1970-80s
http://www.yamaha-motor.com.mx/sr250.htm
very interesting to say the least. what each country can and can't buy.
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Old 02-03-2010, 11:21 PM   #904
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corporate reality

The sad reality is the consumers have voted. Most of us think a 2500 sq.ft house for a 2.5 person family is too small, a fridge for the same house hold must have a capacity of 40 cu.ft. or more, and a comfortable family car should seat at least 9. Look at how far the R1200GS has strayed from the original R80/100.

In the motorbike world we are doing the samething. What are the biggest sellers (in the developed world)? Goldwings, croozers with at least 1500cc, super sports with 180+ hp...

I bought a KTM990 not because I needed or even wanted the power. I liked the ergos and the quality of components that KTM bolts on to its bikes. If they had offered a 750 or 800cc twin with 75hp in an otherwise 100% identical package for say, 2000 Euro less, I would have bought it without hesitation. OK, provided that the "smaller" bike weighed 10-20 kg less and got 20%better fuel economy.

When I read the forums here, clearly I am not alone. But just as clearly we are in the minority.
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Old 02-03-2010, 11:30 PM   #905
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No that Mexican Yamaha was made in the 70-80's and even in the 10's. It is just not sold here. As mentioned the ADV thing is growing in USA, and hopefully the Japanese ADV bikes start showing up. I want one so freaking bad, but I ride off road and there would be no way I could pick up a 6-700 lb bike from a ditch or down a bank. I would not go any heavier then a 800 or 900's as I don't want to be stranded with a stuck bike. Still hope it comes in as a contender and luckily I'm screwed until 2011 for a new bike.
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:31 AM   #906
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don't like to read that

don't like the way that story reads . NO MENTION OF ANY NORTH AMERICAN CITIES OR LANDMARKS. don't like it one bit

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Old 02-04-2010, 01:29 PM   #907
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Old 02-04-2010, 01:32 PM   #908
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so much for the US: must be payback for Nagasaki

we've designed the bike for use on any surface, from the gravel of the Atlas Mountains to the cobbles and potholes of Central Paris.
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Old 02-04-2010, 02:31 PM   #909
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A long range tank , adjustable seat , and ABS as standard ,shaft drive and decent weather protection ? GIMME GIMME GIMME
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Old 02-04-2010, 05:40 PM   #910
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The sad reality is the consumers have voted. Most of us think a 2500 sq.ft house for a 2.5 person family is too small, a fridge for the same house hold must have a capacity of 40 cu.ft. or more, and a comfortable family car should seat at least 9. Look at how far the R1200GS has strayed from the original R80/100.

In the motorbike world we are doing the samething. What are the biggest sellers (in the developed world)? Goldwings, croozers with at least 1500cc, super sports with 180+ hp...

I bought a KTM990 not because I needed or even wanted the power. I liked the ergos and the quality of components that KTM bolts on to its bikes. If they had offered a 750 or 800cc twin with 75hp in an otherwise 100% identical package for say, 2000 Euro less, I would have bought it without hesitation. OK, provided that the "smaller" bike weighed 10-20 kg less and got 20%better fuel economy.

When I read the forums here, clearly I am not alone. But just as clearly we are in the minority.
Terence -
Most people dont know what are the borders of adventure. With heavy bikes, cars, etc... they look for protection and nice look.... thats fine ( BUT now with enduro BIKE?????)
sad....
I posted reply when this thread was opened with my wishes for new ST. Because i disagree with many and i would like max 750-900 ccm and not more, I was quickly attacked as I dont know what I am talking about and what are the needs of todays market and people..
eh....BULLSHIT .

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Old 02-04-2010, 10:27 PM   #911
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ahh shucks...

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we've designed the bike for use on any surface, from the gravel of the Atlas Mountains to the cobbles and potholes of Central Paris.
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don't like the way that story reads . NO MENTION OF ANY NORTH AMERICAN CITIES OR LANDMARKS. don't like it one bit

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Old 02-05-2010, 02:18 AM   #912
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we've designed the bike for use on any surface, from the gravel of the Atlas Mountains to the cobbles and potholes of Central Paris.
The Eurozone will be the largest market for this bike , and it is where Yamaha will sell most of these bikes and make most of it,s money . So it makes perfect sense to concentrate their initial marketing here in euroland .
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Old 02-05-2010, 03:01 AM   #913
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Dont forget that its a euro site. so why would they talk about going to places in the USA? They won't, they will go on about places in Europe and Africa
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Old 02-05-2010, 03:13 AM   #914
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if this bike was shown to the average us bike consumer and asked what year was it made, most would say 1970-80s
http://www.yamaha-motor.com.mx/sr250.htm
very interesting to say the least. what each country can and can't buy.
That's what i passed my first bike test on
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Just show us the friggin' bike.
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