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Old 10-18-2011, 05:53 PM   #9856
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The compressor for the 270* Twin is an Iwata. Ironic that the Super Tenere engine is built in Iwata Japan.
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:02 PM   #9857
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The compressor for the 270* Twin is an Iwata. Ironic that the Super Tenere engine is built in Iwata Japan.


I must have missed something.
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:48 PM   #9858
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Guys...you really look like girls with PMS or somebody who hasn't got laid for a year...

Please get a life, enjoy your bikes (any brand) and let this thread be a source of info about the XT1200Z...

Som good sentence to think about

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Old 10-18-2011, 06:57 PM   #9859
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who appointed you thread pyschologist/counsellor ....... how did you come back from being dead
Who has appointed you thread polluter?

If you don't like the XT1200Z, why do you even bother with this thread?

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I must have missed something.
Well someone actually read my post and saw the humour in it hidden in the first moments of the Lego demo, which so beautifull show the Thrust output in the form of agitated fotons :-)
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Old 10-18-2011, 07:03 PM   #9860
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Who has appointed you thread polluter?

If you don't like the XT1200Z, why do you even bother with this thread?



Well someone actually read my post and saw the humour in it hidden in the first moments of the Lego demo, which so beautifull show the Thrust output in the form of agitated fotons :-)
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Old 10-18-2011, 07:15 PM   #9861
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If Yamaha would have moved the windshield back 6 inches it would have eliminated a lot of the buffeting.
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Old 10-18-2011, 07:21 PM   #9862
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If Yamaha would have moved the windshield back 6 inches it would have eliminated a lot of the buffeting.
I gotta California Scientific windshield and eliminated darn near all of it (buffeting). Windshield's fine where it is. Ever get thrown forward & hit the handlebars? My view only.
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Old 10-18-2011, 07:22 PM   #9863
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If Yamaha would have moved the windshield back 6 inches it would have eliminated a lot of the buffeting.
Well, for some reason, I think form wins out on function a bit with ADV bikes. Anyway it's a bit DAKAR'ish to do that so that is what the design team probably got told, In designer language of course.
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Old 10-18-2011, 07:42 PM   #9864
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Got real tired sifting through the crap for useful information. I would like to see pictures of the tricked out Bikes, discussions on what works and what does not work. Just picked up my Raven and am waiting for a bunch of accessories to arrive. Those accessories were spec'd early on before all the ST threads turned into bashing threads. I appreciate all the info I picked up from Supa10, Old Git Ray, and the like who provide usefull and non biased information. It helped me make an informative decision to get this bike compared to another (shall remain nameless to avoid potential bashing). Now to the discussion.....anyone come up with anything to fill in part of the big hole in front of the bars? Seems there should be something there like a dash for switches etc.
here's what a member on the supertenere forum did, no flat screen tv

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Old 10-18-2011, 07:43 PM   #9865
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Is Yamaha using different sensors? It is a totally different ABS system than the others on the market with the "off switch"? Is it the ABS combined with the UBS? (not that it should matter much actually, the UBS just works both brakes together, another fantastic quality of the S10)

Has anyone actually figured it out besides the old "the ABS just magically works" and that is all there is to it?
Yes, it was my biggest doubt about it, having had several Beemrs with their "only works on clean dry ripple free tarmac", so the first thing i tested was if it worked on front of a rippled traffic light stop, and it wasn't acting at all it seemed, just decelerating.

De big difference is the pump being able to really fast modulate, instead of the simple on-off digital style of our Beemer, but the biggest difference is the lack of the anti-stoppie "Logic", which renders the other ABS disfunctional if the backwheel stammers on rippled asfalt or in offroad.

Most other ABS just do a differential equasion, where the Yamaha has a fast enough processor to do some more arithmatic so they actually calculate the decelleration from *one* wheel with the magnetic rings inducing active signals giving the processor strong and dependable pulses, so if you decellerate one wheel to abruptly,it still has enough processor power to keep the other wheel braking.

I'm an old school 4 Stroke crosser, where you just rammed down through the gears to brake the rear wheel, so instead of a possible skid, your wheel just rotates much slower, if you ride like that on an BMW, you actually loose yor front brake, because the rotational difference is interpretated as a Stoppie,and some real clever BMW engineer has built in a system that releases the front brake thinking the rear wheel must be lifted from the tarmac.

The S10 luckily have just built a bike that has a reallow COG so its not as stoppie prone as a GS, which you actually can trigger quite easily into a stoppie, if you know how stupidly simple their anti-stoppie "logic" is, just keep your foot of the rear brake pull in the clutch, and then hit the front lever.



And of course they tested there software for a whole year, instead of let the riders do the beta testing...
(seen no software update at all, now at 29k thats a real comforting thought, our R12GS sometimes ran worse after a SU




Actually the best brake to use in emergencies, the rear will only induce fishtailing and loss of stability if locked, better keep that rear gyroscopespinning...
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:13 PM   #9866
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here's what a member on the supertenere forum did, no flat screen tv
That's really cool actually, great idea.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:46 PM   #9867
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here's what a member on the supertenere forum did, no flat screen tv

That's mine!

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Old 10-19-2011, 03:57 AM   #9868
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I believe Rema came up with something for that - why don't you ask him?

Seriously - Rema, no need to respond to this...
Why not, i've got a lot of usefull solutions for this bike, its not my writing thats problematic, just the response on it, but as stated by the TS, lets keep this thread clean of it, so Nuke your comment okay ?

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Well, for some reason, I think form wins out on function a bit with ADV bikes. Anyway it's a bit DAKAR'ish to do that so that is what the design team probably got told, In designer language of course.
Ever ridden a ADV hard offroad?

I'm very happy they placed it out of teeths way, solved the buffeting with a piece of rubber, first tried it with the Bulderbaffle®,



But that costs a bit of engine cooling setting of the fan in hot weather from about 35 kmh or lower, so looked at the other side, still have to make some bushes to lift the tank a little to get better airflow their, so the engine isn't fed all the warm air from the headers in its airbox.
Its water cooled so no chance of overheating like the second generation Tenere's, but still fresh air is better food for the engine :-)

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Old 10-19-2011, 05:27 AM   #9869
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Yes, it was my biggest doubt about it, having had several Beemrs with their "only works on clean dry ripple free tarmac", so the first thing i tested was if it worked on front of a rippled traffic light stop, and it wasn't acting at all it seemed, just decelerating.

De big difference is the pump being able to really fast modulate, instead of the simple on-off digital style of our Beemer, but the biggest difference is the lack of the anti-stoppie "Logic", which renders the other ABS disfunctional if the backwheel stammers on rippled asfalt or in offroad.

Most other ABS just do a differential equasion, where the Yamaha has a fast enough processor to do some more arithmatic so they actually calculate the decelleration from *one* wheel with the magnetic rings inducing active signals giving the processor strong and dependable pulses, so if you decellerate one wheel to abruptly,it still has enough processor power to keep the other wheel braking.

I'm an old school 4 Stroke crosser, where you just rammed down through the gears to brake the rear wheel, so instead of a possible skid, your wheel just rotates much slower, if you ride like that on an BMW, you actually loose yor front brake, because the rotational difference is interpretated as a Stoppie,and some real clever BMW engineer has built in a system that releases the front brake thinking the rear wheel must be lifted from the tarmac.

The S10 luckily have just built a bike that has a reallow COG so its not as stoppie prone as a GS, which you actually can trigger quite easily into a stoppie, if you know how stupidly simple their anti-stoppie "logic" is, just keep your foot of the rear brake pull in the clutch, and then hit the front lever.



And of course they tested there software for a whole year, instead of let the riders do the beta testing...
(seen no software update at all, now at 29k thats a real comforting thought, our R12GS sometimes ran worse after a SU




Actually the best brake to use in emergencies, the rear will only induce fishtailing and loss of stability if locked, better keep that rear gyroscopespinning...
No doubt the Continental ABS on the S10 is very good, especially on bumps. But the Conti system on the GS beats it on a smooth road and on the test with tarmac - sand -tarmac - sand -tarmac.

The Bosch system on the BMW 1000RR beats the S10 on the bumpy stuff. This should tell you that it is difficult to have a system that is perfect everywhere. To say the BMW has a bad ABS system is simply wrong. To call the GS stoppie prone is just retarded.

Maybe you can back off your continous BMW slaying and concentrate on your S10. That would make you more acceptable to most participants here on the ADV forum
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Old 10-19-2011, 06:41 AM   #9870
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Maybe you can back off your continous BMW slaying and concentrate on your S10. That would make you more acceptable to most participants here on the ADV forum
I totally agree with you but I think you beating a dead horse

It's too late for him he's like a GS on a downhill, he can't stop
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