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Old 04-19-2012, 06:23 PM   #11941
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Van Sant is practically in my back yard, just a 10 min ride for me. I will let you know when I get the NTX. Van Sant will be one of the first places I probably visit. Love going there to look at bikes and watch the planes; real fun.

Wow... Believe it or not a Guzzi Stelvio was my second choice right behind the Super Tenere, but what swayed it was the local Yamaha dealer being a good friend and running a truly terrific shop.

OTOH, the folks at AF-1 Racing in New Braunfels & Austin, TX are good friends, too, and now they started handling Guzzi's, but only now are they having them supplied in reasonable quantities. However, I've told Ed at AF-1 I want the first of the new, updated V7's... I believe now called the MY V7, and I want mine in the "Special" livery with the pearl & orange paint and wire wheels. As soon as they start shipping those one will have my name on it, and I think it will make a nice addition to the "stable".

There's just *something* about Moto Guzzi's...

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Old 04-19-2012, 06:56 PM   #11942
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Wow... Believe it or not a Guzzi Stelvio was my second choice right behind the Super Tenere, but what swayed it was the local Yamaha dealer being a good friend and running a truly terrific shop.

There's just *something* about Moto Guzzi's...

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I agree with you, there's just something beautiful about the Moto Guzzi's
Just like you I had been looking at the Stelvio NTX too

I decided on the Tenere because it will probably be way cheaper in the long run

If I had money to buy more bikes, I would get something like this

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Old 04-19-2012, 07:08 PM   #11943
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I agree with you, there's just something beautiful about the Moto Guzzi's
Just like you I had been looking at the Stelvio NTX too

I decided on the Tenere because it will probably be way cheaper in the long run


If I had money to buy more bikes, I would get something like this


This is what I've got my name on... Ed says perhaps sometime this summer. By that time I'm sure the Verys and probably either the XR1200 or KLR650 will have departed the quiver, so there should be a nice slot for the little V7...







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Old 04-19-2012, 08:35 PM   #11944
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By that time I'm sure the Verys and probably either the XR1200 or KLR650 will have departed the quiver...
Dallara, I love picking the minds of those like myself. I have a KLR, had a Versys and have been on the fence about pulling the trigger on a SuperT (Love the new V7's also).

I love the KLR and it's ergo's, hated them on the Versys, seat locked me in and felt scrunched to the tank. So what are your pro-cons of the trio including your S10?
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:03 PM   #11945
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Dallara, I love picking the minds of those like myself. I have a KLR, had a Versys and have been on the fence about pulling the trigger on a SuperT (Love the new V7's also).

I love the KLR and it's ergo's, hated them on the Versys, seat locked me in and felt scrunched to the tank. So what are your pro-cons of the trio including your S10?

Thanks,

Interesting question... I'll give you the short version, but if you want more info later I'll elaborate.

I love the KLR650. MIne's a 2003, and nothing else will quite do what a KLR is capable of. Not to use a cliche, but it definitely is one of those "Jack of All Trades - Master of None" creations. Only bad part is as good as it is the poor thing is terrible for what I do a lot of the time... That is, cruising on Texas roads and highways at a real (not speedo error) 85 MPH and more. It just doesn't like that very much, especially when I have to carry a bunch of stuff. I run taller gearing on mine and it still feels like I'm gonna' blow it up at the speeds I like to travel.

The Versys is a truly terrific motorcycle. This 2009 blue one I have now is the second one I've had. The first was a red 2008. I got this blue one for my girlfriend... Lowered it an all. But now she's back in CRNA school and doesn't want to chance getting hurt, so she's off motorcycles - riding or on pillion - until she's done a year-and-a-half from now. Hence the Versys is for sale. But I loved my 2008, and rode it all over Texas, though it never left the state. Had the Kawa/Givi bags, Givi windscreen, etc., and it was definitely an *overachiever*. It embarrassed many a bigger, faster adversary any time the road started wriggling up. But much like you I found it kind of "locked me" in one position, and one position only. Lots of time the only relief I could get on long rides was to stand up for a while, which looks weird at 85 on an interstate!

And as good as it ran I also felt it was not all that happy when the cruise velocities got into the missile category. It would do those speeds, and be much more comfortable and capable than the KLR, but it still lacked a lot of what I like. Worst of all was having to *plan* for passes of more than one car, etc. Often it just didn't have the *oomphf*, even with a downshift or two, to deal with traffic in short spaces... And I don't like to wait!

The Super Tenere has been literally *PERFECT* for me. Yes, it's heavy, but I came from a motocross, enduro, and hare scrambles racing background... Over twenty years of pounding around race courses on rough terrain, and often on big, open class cannons like Husky 400CR's, Honda CR450's and 480's, Honda XR500's and 600's, Can-Am 560 Sonic's, ATK's, etc.... So the weight doesn't bother me as much as I thought it might. Yes, the KLR is better in the dirt for the most part, but I think the Super Tenere is a far better off-road mount than the Versys.

And on pavement... Well, I spent a few years road racing, too, and mostly on big 750 and open class production racers like Honda CB750F's and 900F's. Those weighed nearly as much as the Super Tenere, and had similar geometry, so it feels plenty natural to me. And best of all it has plenty of power. Way better power than a BMW R1150R I had, and more than enough to haul whatever I want to carry, even pushing a Parabellum windscreen, at whatever cruise velocity I like. It's way, way more comfortable than either the KLR or the Versys, and more stable, too, both on- and off-pavement. Has better suspension, too, and the brakes are a true quantum leap over the other two.

For me, and how I ride and where I ride, the Super Tenere is simply a much, much better motorcycle. The other two are wonderful machines, but just not as good for me.

Hope that answers your questions...

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Old 04-20-2012, 05:52 AM   #11946
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I like to protect the tank from muddy knees, so my Yamaha dealer ordered a decal kit. If it works is going to commercialised.
The material looks very strong but it needs some little adjustments yet.
When ready I’m going to post some good pictures

Well i like that dude, your dealer seems to think outside the box, good on him
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:18 AM   #11947
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Interesting question... I'll give you the short version...


Thank you for the thoughtful eval. I do see a SuperT in my garage someday. Like you, I have many bikes and need to clear one out before adding more.

IMHO, Kawi may have something if they ever spoon the Versys motor in a KLR ergo'd frame.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:18 PM   #11948
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Well i like that dude, your dealer seems to think outside the box, good on him
Yeah, he is very active. A big difference with the attitude of the BMW dealer I had before, only for this it worth the change from my old GSA to the ST!!

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Old 04-21-2012, 04:06 PM   #11949
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You will be very impressed with the change in characteristic when you get out in the dirt...

Greg.[/QUOTE]

I have a ride today and I’m totally agree with you, Greg.
The bike improves a lot. I don’t know if is the geometry change or the new suspension, Probably is the combination of both.
The bike is easy and quicker in the corners and in off road is a completely different bike, I had big jumps and cant finish the shock, in the beginning is soft but it gets harder when is compressed, is difficult to explain with my limited English but I fell a “quality” suspension. GREAT!
(and my bash plate is very happy)
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:14 PM   #11950
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Shock looks nice. Is that high and low speed compression adjustment? Is ride height adjustable? What did it cost?

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I asked the shock price and they tell me that the price in Spain is going to be surrounding 800€, but better you ask to mambatec@gmail.com
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Old 04-22-2012, 12:44 AM   #11951
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Guys, you really need to do the HID conversion, it's amazing!
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Old 04-22-2012, 04:42 AM   #11952
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:20 AM   #11953
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Guys, you really need to do the HID conversion, it's amazing!
I find the stock lighting to be very good. Did you have an issue with it or was your conversion to HID just another farkle?

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Old 04-22-2012, 11:34 AM   #11954
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Fuel Mileage?

OK, I give up. I've tried a couple different searches of this thread and couldn't find an answer. What kind of fuel mileage are you guys getting with your S10? Cycle World has it in the mid 30's which seemed low to me.
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Old 04-22-2012, 11:44 AM   #11955
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37-38 around town

47-48 highway

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