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Old 07-10-2012, 06:33 PM   #12886
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but YAMAHA could have made it totally un restricted in S mode.(if the authorities were alright with it that is)
Exactly my point. If Yamaha is going to put "modes" on the bike, make at least one of them "nanny-less" and let the motor rip. People using that mode off-road are taking a risk, sure, but that's their choice. This is where I think Ducati got it right. Big nanny mode (Urban), less nanny mode (Touring), and nannyless full-power-hold-on mode (Sport). Surely Yamaha could have done something similar......

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Old 07-10-2012, 06:45 PM   #12887
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Exactly my point. If Yamaha is going to put "modes" on the bike, make at least one of them "nanny-less" and let the motor rip. People using that mode off-road are taking a risk, sure, but that's their choice. This is where I think Ducati got it right. Big nanny mode (Urban), less nanny mode (Touring), and nannyless full-power-hold-on mode (Sport). Surely Yamaha could have done something similar......

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They may do it down the track. ATM they were sighting emissions as the reason it was slightly nanny. They may need to do a bit more work on what was a new motor when released. But it seems that is all changing a bit in the background.

I don't find S mode very laggy at all. But I inherited my bike after 7000Km and it's not a US spec bike and I have never ridden one with less than 2000km on the clock. On the other hand I have never ridden a Ducati for extended periods either.

All I can say is the S10 solved a few "first world problems" I had with jacked up street bikes. BUT most of the market is for that kind of thing in reality. The MTS is way more real world than the track bikes they usually sell without loosing all the performance, and even bringing it back to, dare I say it, a more sensible zone.
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:42 PM   #12888
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Sock Monkey....was ready to rail you....BUT...you're not far off. Too much Nanny...not enough Rock. I do have to say that after riding a lot of big "dualies" off road (1150GSA, 1200GSA, Tiger 955i, Big Strom...owned them all! All farkled to obscene levels...) this thing is the Shit off road for us "pussies" that can't do the "big" thing off road with the others. I have NEVER felt so confident off road on a LOADED big trailie as I have on this big 'ol chunk o' love!! Went over a lot of miles of nasty dirt roads in Utah, Colorado and Arizona (no real hard core 'trail" mind you) on this pig with all my kit and I have never felt so comfortable/confident...and may I say..."fast..." and I am enamored with the old bitch!!!
I am not young, svelte nor skilled, but the Tenere' has been a godsend to my ability to confidently traverse shitty terrain with all my gear and not fear I was going to die in the next sixty seconds. I thought it was all BS when I read all the pap sputtering about the net of this feature...now, I AM A BELIEVER....
Hauled ass (fully loaded with my fat ass and 120+ pounds of kit) and NEVER felt over-taxed nor afraid. That has NEVER happened before with any of the big dualies I have owned. (Oh, and BTW.... the Yamaha ABS DOES work off-road...contrary to all the hand wringing about no switch...How, I don't know...but I'll be fucked if it doesn't just work!!!!!! )
I am sure a Ducati is faster/sleeker/more advanced/awesome...but, you know what? I'm HOME!!!

"Nuff said".

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Old 07-10-2012, 07:42 PM   #12889
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Exactly my point. If Yamaha is going to put "modes" on the bike, make at least one of them "nanny-less" and let the motor rip. People using that mode off-road are taking a risk, sure, but that's their choice. This is where I think Ducati got it right. Big nanny mode (Urban), less nanny mode (Touring), and nannyless full-power-hold-on mode (Sport). Surely Yamaha could have done something similar......

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SM - These are not the droids you seek.

So dude, why are you posing on a Ducati Multistrada? Do you just like tight red leather? Or you're simply not man enough to ride a GSXR750? Or just too old.

Dropping off throttle at 5k and whacking it wide open sounds a lot like you were trying to get the front wheel up. Doing that in 2nd probably messes with all kinds of ECU commands, since things are restricted in the first three gears for people riding off pavement, so they can actually get some traction.

It's not a sport bike. And neither is your Multistrada, though the Multi is a lot less of an adventure bike and a lot more of a street bike. Um yeah, all roads, (but we mean the paved ones).

Thanks for the review!
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:51 PM   #12890
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Hauled ass (fully loaded with my fat ass and 120+ pounds of kit) and NEVER felt over-taxed nor afraid. That has NEVER happened before with any of the big dualies I have owned. (Oh, and BTW.... the Yamaha ABS DOES work off-road...contrary to all the hand wringing about no switch...How, I don't know...but I'll be fucked if it doesn't just work!!!!!! )
I am sure a Ducati is faster/sleeker/more advanced/awsome...but, you know what? I'm HOME!!!

"Nuff said".

Well said. But it still takes a good ride off road to realize all this. YAMAHA may have to invest in some off road test rides
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:51 PM   #12891
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After about 5K miles...in S mode and TCS 2...it's a hoot.


BTW, anyone interested in a 2012 Super Tenere with 15,000 miles on it? Hepco TC 52 Topcase, Powerlets & Highway Dirtbikes Top Clamp, Eastern Beaver Fuse Box....some bruises here and there, cosmetic only.

I'm sorta thinking about it. Riding is may be pretty restricted soon.
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:54 PM   #12892
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After about 5K miles...in S mode and TCS 2...it's a hoot.


BTW, anyone interested in a 2012 Super Tenere with 15,000 miles on it? Hepco TC 52 Topcase, Powerlets & Highway Dirtbikes Top Clamp, Eastern Beaver Fuse Box....some bruises here and there, cosmetic only.

I'm sorta thinking about it. Riding is may be pretty restricted soon.
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:15 PM   #12893
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SM - These are not the droids you seek.

So dude, why are you posing on a Ducati Multistrada? Do you just like tight red leather? Or you're simply not man enough to ride a GSXR750? Or just too old.

Dropping off throttle at 5k and whacking it wide open sounds a lot like you were trying to get the front wheel up. Doing that in 2nd probably messes with all kinds of ECU commands, since things are restricted in the first three gears for people riding off pavement, so they can actually get some traction.

It's not a sport bike. And neither is your Multistrada, though the Multi is a lot less of an adventure bike and a lot more of a street bike. Um yeah, all roads, (but we mean the paved ones).

Thanks for the review!
Ah....and one of those who I warned to avert their eyes has arisen, torch in hand, to roast the Monkey. I say...BRING IT ON!!!!

Posing on a Multi?!?! First time I've ever heard someone try to attach "posing" to the Mutley. I don't pose, I just ride the thing. And I don't wear leather (sorry to disappoint you..... :ymca ). Oh, and I don't like sport bikes, so I don't own one.

No wheelie attempt. Checking for drive line lash. Found it.

I saw a few posts recently of the "can't decide which bike to buy" type, so I figured I'd toss in my 2 bananas on the Tenere. Hopefully it will help someone out, especially someone who is considering buying soon because that deal is smokin'. No affiliation with the shop, just passing on some savings to the brotherhood.

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Old 07-10-2012, 08:23 PM   #12894
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Ah....and one of those who I warned to avert their eyes has arisen, torch in hand, to roast the Monkey. I say...BRING IT ON!!!!

Posing on a Multi?!?! First time I've ever heard someone try to attach "posing" to the Mutley. I don't pose, I just ride the thing. And I don't wear leather (sorry to disappoint you..... :ymca ). Oh, and I don't like sport bikes, so I don't own one.

No wheelie attempt. Checking for drive line lash. Found it.

I saw a few posts recently of the "can't decide which bike to buy" type, so I figured I'd toss in my 2 bananas on the Tenere. Hopefully it will help someone out, especially someone who is considering buying soon because that deal is smokin'. No affiliation with the shop, just passing on some savings to the brotherhood.

-SM
Bananas accepted.... I'm too stoopid to be offended/notice the driveline lash....
Just like the bike.
Thanks for the heads up on the smokin' deal!
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:33 PM   #12895
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Bananas accepted.... I'm too stoopid to be offended/notice the driveline lash....
Just like the bike.
Thanks for the heads up on the smokin' deal!
It's all good. That deal is what prompted me to go check the bike out. I thought daaaaaamn, if it's what I'm lookin' for, I may have to add one to the stable. That's a LOT 'o bike for a little bit o' cash (relatively speaking). Turned out to not be for me, but hopefully another ADV'er can snatch one up. I'm guessing at that price they won't last long......

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Old 07-10-2012, 09:10 PM   #12896
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It's all good...

...Turned out to not be for me...

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And *THAT*, folks... Is why they make different colors... And different styles... And different displacements...

And why companies like Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Triumph, Aprilia, Harley-Davidson, Victory, Ural, Gas Gas, Beta, Sherco, TM, Moto Guzzi, MV Agusta, KTM, Husqvarna, Royal Enfield, etc., etc., etc., even BMW... Oh, and Ducati...

Are all still in business out there making different motorsicles!!!

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p.s. just for the record I own a Ducati along with my Super Tenere and a couple of others, too...
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Old 07-10-2012, 10:00 PM   #12897
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:11 AM   #12898
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......... I'm too stoopid to be offended/notice the driveline lash....
Just like the bike.
This is kinda where I am at. This driveline lash thing. I've been riding for 40 years and have no problem with (or even noticed) it. I get on a new bike and just accept that it is going to be different from the last one and just get on with it. After a short while I get used to a bikes idiosyncrasies and just ride it without paying too much attention to whether it does this or that better that XYZ bike.

I just know it will lug SWMBO and I, with luggage, around all day, in safety, on most surfaces, with a bit of fun thrown in for good measure. But this is what I thought it was designed for.

But then obviously I obviously fall in to the 'stooopid' category too because I do not want it to ride like an R1 or a WR250.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:57 AM   #12899
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This is kinda where I am at. This driveline lash thing. I've been riding for 40 years and have no problem with (or even noticed) it. I get on a new bike and just accept that it is going to be different from the last one and just get on with it. After a short while I get used to a bikes idiosyncrasies and just ride it without paying too much attention to whether it does this or that better that XYZ bike.

I just know it will lug SWMBO and I, with luggage, around all day, in safety, on most surfaces, with a bit of fun thrown in for good measure. But this is what I thought it was designed for.

But then obviously I obviously fall in to the 'stooopid' category too because I do not want it to ride like an R1 or a WR250.
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Old 07-11-2012, 04:34 AM   #12900
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Exactly my point. If Yamaha is going to put "modes" on the bike, make at least one of them "nanny-less" and let the motor rip. People using that mode off-road are taking a risk, sure, but that's their choice. This is where I think Ducati got it right. Big nanny mode (Urban), less nanny mode (Touring), and nannyless full-power-hold-on mode (Sport). Surely Yamaha could have done something similar......

-SM
Yeah, but if you have the Electronically adjustable suspensions dreaded DES failure you can look forward to replacing a $3500 US part. That legendary Ducati reliability.
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