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Old 07-23-2012, 01:25 PM   #13096
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The down side is that it's SO responsive in lower gears that you have to recalibrate your wrist. Thankfully we have traction control, or many of us would have been dumped on our dumb arses before our brains completed the recalibration... Well, I know I would have.

The other thing is losing T mode - it's nice in bad conditions. Easy solution, pull the mini fuse and return to stock, or fit a switch that makes it easy to get back to stock.
+1...it takes a little more throttle hand discipline to smoothe out the throttle response in bumpy conditions....no more being a slacker...love the mod,,,it's a new bike to me......would like a switch for the bypass.....otherwise, no fuel use issues or anything....this was meant to be
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:30 PM   #13097
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If i was you,i would keep those things out of the sun.I am on my 2nd pair of those,the 1st pair startes cracking,so they sent me a 2nd pair @ No Charge & told me to put some sun screen on the outsides of them,Which i did (SPF 50)i have had the 2nd pair maybe 2 months & they are starting to crack already.Just saying!!
why Kriega would make an outdoor product that is not UV stable is beyond me....
this is good stuff I use on my boat....

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Old 07-23-2012, 02:31 PM   #13098
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I'm wondering the same I believe I read someone saying their gas mileage went down a bit...and people have said they lost any difference in performance between Sport and Touring modes.

Also, when people make this mod, are you seeing an improvement in power over the Sport mode...or is it only making the touring mode the same as the sport mode?? Anyone know for sure with dyno testing?
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:44 PM   #13099
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why Kriega would make an outdoor product that is not UV stable is beyond me....
this is good stuff I use on my boat....




Big +1 on the 303!

IMHO nothing works better on vinyl, colored plastic, etc. than the 303. They make a bunch of great products, and their "Fabric Protectant" is second to none, too.

http://303products.com/index.php/303...uard-16oz.html

If you're not familiar with their various products their site is worth a look - http://303products.com/

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Old 07-23-2012, 03:00 PM   #13100
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The right is the clutch switch

You have a switch for when you want sun or rain???? I am impressed.
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Old 07-23-2012, 03:21 PM   #13101
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On an unrelated note...

I just put 248 miles (400 km) on a tank of gas! It wasn't easy cruising either; 60 miles of 80+ on the highway, followed by 60 miles of spirited backroad blasting, finishing with another 120 miles 2-up, all in Sport mode. It took 5.3 gallons at the pump, which means at a minimum, I would've made it to 260 (at 5.6 gallons), with a theoretical maximum of 280. It probably didn't help anything that my back tire was at 10 PSI .

I'm now completely confident, if I wanted to, I could pass the 300 mile mark. I might have to take a day and do a back road loop just to prove it.
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Old 07-23-2012, 03:55 PM   #13102
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You have a switch for when you want sun or rain???? I am impressed.
Yes, the rain is gravity inversed but it works great opening and closing the umbrella
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Old 07-23-2012, 03:58 PM   #13103
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Perfect, thanks!
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Old 07-23-2012, 06:28 PM   #13104
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Talk is cheap. I want to see some photos.
You'll get your photos, but after this weekend. Can't do to much off road though, the bike just looks fragile now with the stock plastic thingee down there....

I've got to say Yamaha priced the new cover a lot cheaper than I would have expected, and at least ONE part of my bike looks brand new again
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:11 PM   #13105
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Remember, if you ride it like a dirt bike you better be prepared to maintain it like a dirt bike.
Maybe so, but it is an issue with USD forks and although dirt bike fork seals are not warranted the seals are a better design and dirt bikes usually have OEM fork guards, which is not the case with the S10. I have had new fork seals on my S10 but my KLR went places off road my S10 has never been and with standard forks and fork gaiters there was no issue. In fact my S10 hasn't been off the highway, but that includes gnarly gravel highways.

Maybe the performance gains from reducing unsprung weight are not that important on a DS bike? If the bike needs gaiters for the designed purpose maybe Yamaha should have fitted then as standard.
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:19 PM   #13106
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Maybe so, but it is an issue with USD forks and although dirt bike fork seals are not warranted the seals are a better design and dirt bikes usually have OEM fork guards, which is not the case with the S10. I have had new fork seals on my S10 but my KLR went places off road my S10 has never been and with standard forks and fork gaiters there was no issue. In fact my S10 hasn't been off the highway, but that includes gnarly gravel highways.

Maybe the performance gains from reducing unsprung weight are not that important on a DS bike? If the bike needs gaiters for the designed purpose maybe Yamaha should have fitted then as standard.

Full fork boots don't work very well on "upside-down" forks... And they really won't work on the Super Tenere. No way they could survive so close to the brake discs and calipers, especially when they heat up under some heavy braking.

And let's not forget that a fork seal weeping very lightly (and I do mean very, very *LIGHTLY*) is not always an all bad thing in some cases. Hell, Husqvarna's back in the late '60's and all through the '70's came with leaky seals... Because Husky thought it made for smoother fork action with less stiction. OTOH, a leaky seal is a much touchier situation in this instance because you honestly don't want *ANY* fork oil on your front discs.

I've ridden my S-10 both on- and off-road for nearly 20,000 miles, and I've never had a fork seal issue. Please note, too, that I am a *BIG* boy weight-wise, and I don't ride gently (I carried an AMA Pro MX license & number for a few years), so I think I hit hard enough to have seal issues... But that said, I think I know why I don't.

I've mentioned this before, but I think it may help to post it here again.

Most of the time when you have a leaking fork seal it's *NOT* "blown" and needing replacement. Probably 85 - 90% of the time you simply have some grit underneath the seal lip, and it is that piece of dirt raising the lip of the seal that allows oil to seep by and make it appear you have "blown" a seal. The trick is to get that little piece of grit out of the seal. "Back in the day" we used anything and everything from 35mm film negative strips to business cards to slip up under the seal and try to flick the grit out. But today there's something much, much better... The "Seal Mate"

http://sealmate.net/

Watch the video there. It's worth your time. These little devils *WORK*! And with their cool little curved edge combined with the super-strong, super-thin material they easily get under the seal without damaging it. You absolutely won't believe what you will clean out from underneath your seal lips from time to time. I keep one of these on each of my bikes and one in the shop toolbox, too. If I see any sign of a seal weeping I pull the "Seal Mate" out and clean the seal. The "Seal Mate" is a relatively new tool, but using the old methods (film, clear acetate, etc.) I haven't had to replace a fork seal in *YEARS*... And that includes our 3 "Time Tunnel Racing" AHRMA vintage CZ MX'ers.

You might want to try some regular cleaning of your fork seals and it might help you avoid replacement, warranty or otherwise.

Just my two centavos... YMMV.

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p.s. I am not affiliated with Motion Pro, R&J Engineering, or Seal Mate in any way. Just a satisfied customer.


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Old 07-23-2012, 11:29 PM   #13107
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Looks great! simple and clever.

Thanks Dallara

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Old 07-24-2012, 02:34 AM   #13108
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Looks great! simple and clever.

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Old 07-24-2012, 04:15 AM   #13109
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:39 AM   #13110
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Fork Seals!

The S10 forks are quite exposed to the elements. Do yourself a favour and instal something like Fork Skins or Seal Savers. Cheap and they work. Get a new pair every year and I doubt you'll ever have a problem with leaky forks.
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