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Old 02-25-2010, 07:32 AM   #1381
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They need their arse kicking for this. It's all well and good launching what looked to me like a great bike, but the lack of demo bikes will have people heading to BMW and Triumph rather than buying the Ten.
Bloody shame.

If I recall correctly, this is how the Yamaha FJR was introduced to Canada and the USA......no floor models (or it was a required downpayment and then order it in)

In time, they stocked them on the floor. The online, or downpayment and order system, worked alright with the FJR to show Yamaha that it will be a successful bike in North America, perhaps this is what will happen here too.
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:38 AM   #1382
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If I recall correctly, this is how the Yamaha FJR was introduced to Canada and the USA......no floor models (or it was a required downpayment and then order it in)

In time, they stocked them on the floor. The online, or downpayment and order system, worked alright with the FJR to show Yamaha that it will be a successful bike in North America, perhaps this is what will happen here too.

Same thing happened in the UK last year with the R1 - people still bought them - but I counted at least 15 sales that we missed to Honda/Aprilia/Suzuki due to no demos being about. Thats just one shop alone.
Bums on seats = selling bikes

I'm waiting on a response from YMUK
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:39 AM   #1383
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Not what i wished for...

Looks pretty close to that photo-shop. Of course it wasn't going to be exact.

Bike looks good to me. It is a 1200CC bike, not a 660CC - of course it is going to be too big and heavy for serious off road.


Same as 660 is too big for Supercross.
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:45 AM   #1384
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Same thing happened in the UK last year with the R1 - people still bought them - but I counted at least 15 sales that we missed to Honda/Aprilia/Suzuki due to no demos being about. Thats just one shop alone.
Bums on seats = selling bikes

I'm waiting on a response from YMUK

Thanks for the relevant reply. Yamaha and Honda both tried to introduce large dual sport bikes to NA years ago that sat on the showroom floor. Perhaps it was bad timing, however the giant trailie is quite a popular bike now. Yamaha was burned before so I can see their logic.

I also see many of them used as touring bikes, and why not. They are an accepted equivalent of a two-wheeled SUV.
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:46 AM   #1385
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Looks pretty close to that photo-shop. Of course it wasn't going to be exact.

Bike looks good to me. It is a 1200CC bike, not a 660CC - of course it is going to be too big and heavy for serious off road.


Same as 660 is too big for Supercross.
Who is really doing "serious offroad" even with a KTM 9xx or a GS800?
A very tiny proportion of people (likes of Riceless) get their pig in trouble.
Otherwise people might want to cross a ditch, or cross a portion of fireroad with some strewn rocks, or a 10 inches ford every now and then.
Otherwise, it's tarmac, city, highway.

Whenever the link-up between pavement is degraded, we expect the pig to be able to perform.

I think the ST 1200 will be more than capable to fullfill that mission.
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:47 AM   #1386
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I dig it.

Good thing that its not coming to the US. I'd probably have to take a bath on my Buell Uly to get one...
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:49 AM   #1387
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Has there been any REAL confirmation that this bike is NOT comming to the USA. We always get screwed out of the good bikes over here!
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Old 02-25-2010, 08:00 AM   #1388
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anyone notice the tail lights looks like old R6 ?



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Old 02-25-2010, 08:06 AM   #1389
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I like it as a GS beater and think it will do anything the GS will do. The only negative I see so far and can't believe no one has said anything, is what's with the left pannier? I'm sure aftermarket will step up and offer a decent one, but c'mon what the heck are you supposed to put in it.



*If* I was in the market for a big trailie, this is the bike I would be buying over a GS or KTM.
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Old 02-25-2010, 08:18 AM   #1390
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I tend to agree with you. The new S10 is getting a kicking on the vara, strom and GS sites (as expected). So it needs it own customer-base.
Nah here in the netherlands, a lot of people allready dumped their GS in favor of a much more reliable XTZ660, and the vibe in the GSlist.nl is verry positive.

Looking at the immensely long cardan, and highspec components i think it will compensate the lack of telelever with loads of YammiYummi riding pleasure,long swingarm is loads of stability woithout compromising nibleness.
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Old 02-25-2010, 08:20 AM   #1391
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I like it as a GS beater and think it will do anything the GS will do. The only negative I see so far and can't believe no one has said anything, is what's with the left pannier? I'm sure aftermarket will step up and offer a decent one, but c'mon what the heck are you supposed to put in it.
Its still pretty big. And You gotta clear that big honkin' can. Looks like an aftermarket oval can would allow you to use symetrical square boxes.
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Old 02-25-2010, 08:26 AM   #1392
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XT1200Z Super Tenere

Everybody! Call Yamaha Customer Relations (800) 962-7926 and urge them to bring the XT1200Z Super Tenere to the US!
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Old 02-25-2010, 08:30 AM   #1393
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anyone notice the tail lights looks like old R6 ?
It sure does. The WR250R/X uses an old R1 tail light.
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:32 AM   #1394
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Everybody! Call Yamaha Customer Relations (800) 962-7926 and urge them to bring the XT1200Z Super Tenere to the US!
I've done this with other Japanese bikes (e.g., Tenere, CB1100F, and CB1000R) and it didn't do a damn bit of good. I'm sick and tired of begging someone to sell me something. And as someone else said, Yamaha is so tentative about things, you know that if they imported it, they'd have some lame PDP program like they did with the FJR that required a six-month order period for your bike to arrive in November. And the bike is not going to be any bargain. It's early to condemn it, but honestly, it looks like a bike that will not be as good as the GS for more money. I'm beginning to understand why perhaps Yamaha left this bike in the can an extra year or so.

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Old 02-25-2010, 09:40 AM   #1395
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Everybody! Call Yamaha Customer Relations (800) 962-7926 and urge them to bring the XT1200Z Super Tenere to the US!
I gonna take that as a "No we arent getting it here" answer to my question. It figures.

I called, the lady had absolutley NO idea what I was talking about and said she couldnt help me! I just had to laugh...

I doubt any amount of calls would make a difference.
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