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Old 11-06-2012, 08:03 PM   #14131
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What the heck? I am here trying to gather information on my next possible ride and all I get is a bunch of crap about how great the KLR is? I know how great the KLR is, I have one and it rocks! So how on earth is one supposed to justify to their wife (who is sitting right here next to me - she rides a DR650 herself) a decision about what their next ride ought to be? Guess it won't be the Yamaha. Perhaps the guys over on the MTS1200 and the Explorer threads are a little more enthusiastic about their rides. Sheesh!

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Old 11-06-2012, 08:38 PM   #14132
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What the heck? I am here trying to gather information on my next possible ride and all I get is a bunch of crap about how great the KLR is? I know how great the KLR is, I have one and it rocks! So how on earth is one supposed to justify to their wife (who is sitting right here next to me - she rides a DR650 herself) a decision about what their next ride ought to be? Guess it won't be the Yamaha. Perhaps the guys over on the MTS1200 and the Explorer threads are a little more enthusiastic about their rides. Sheesh!

What was it you said?

"Sheesh!"

Have you read much in this thread? It might help if you read more than the last couple of pages...

I own a Super Ténéré, and as I have posted many times here, and elsewhere, it may very well be the best motorcycle I have ever owned. I have put more than 25,000 miles in just over a year of ownership. It is a spectacular motorcycle, and a far better long-distance mount than a KLR will ever be.

If you talking about my previous comments in the past couple of pages about the KLR *please* take them in context - i.e. if the world as we know ended tomorrow (and it could the way the friggin' election is going, damn it!) you could do a hell of a lot worse than having a KLR-650 as your "Apocalypse Bike".

The Super Ténéré is by far the best pavement bike of the two, but for really technical off-road terrain IMHO the KLR holds the edge... I ride more on pavement, though, so for me the big Yamaha is a better choice.

Doesn't mean I won't have another KLR in my future, or something like it.

Before you judge the Super Ténéré, or its owners, so harshly you have about 940 other pages to read!

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Old 11-06-2012, 08:59 PM   #14133
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What the heck? I am here trying to gather information on my next possible ride and all I get is a bunch of crap about how great the KLR is? I know how great the KLR is, I have one and it rocks! So how on earth is one supposed to justify to their wife (who is sitting right here next to me - she rides a DR650 herself) a decision about what their next ride ought to be? Guess it won't be the Yamaha. Perhaps the guys over on the MTS1200 and the Explorer threads are a little more enthusiastic about their rides. Sheesh!
Yep, this is the wrong thread for you. No info here.
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:33 PM   #14134
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With all these nice KLR shots I couldn't help noticing they all were missing the most
important KLR farkle. So I thought I would put together a group buy.

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Old 11-06-2012, 11:11 PM   #14135
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What the heck?.... Sheesh!
I am a single bike kind of guy. I want something that will do about anything. That bike doesn't exist. But the YAMAHA is as close as I have got. If you understand the word compromise, YAMAHA have done a really intelligent job of it.

Seriously.

And the YAMAHA probably will survive the apocalypse, it's just you may start loosing some features as the years go by. It will still keep going though. Eventually after many decades post apocalypse the YAMAHA may end up so degraded that it will start to resemble riding a KLR.

It may still be hard to pick up for some folk though.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:39 AM   #14136
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Hey, *NOBODY* loves their Super Ténéré more than I love mine. It's a truly fantastic motorcycle.

That said, IMHO, there is no better "Apocalypse Bike" than the Kawasaki KLR-650. It's been around, largely unchanged, for literally decades. Parts are readily, and quickly available. It has *HUGE* aftermarket support, and not just for accessories and farkles, but for actual hard parts, too. It is stunningly simple to work on, and requires perhaps the fewest number of "special" tools to do so of any modern motorcycle. Once just a couple of truly minor, easy to fix, issues are addressed it is reliable as a rock. It may not be anywhere near a motocrosser or hare scrambles racer, but it will go just about anywhere... And unless you get it in someplace truly impossible just about anybody can pick it up, by themselves, if it gets dumped... Certainly easier to pick up in a tough spot than the big Yamaha.

Maybe all that is why the military uses 'em.

They are also stupidly cheap to buy, own, operate, and maintain. They hold their value well once they hit a certain level, and you can sell them fast if need be, but find another one quickly and inexpensively if you wish. They are also stupid-cheap to insure.

Oh, and they get phenomenal gas mileage, too... And all while be pretty damn comfortable. They may not be a road racer, or stop like a GP bike, but with a big front disc, some decent pads, and some steel-braided lines the brakes work fairly well... And with the right rider you can actually embarrass sportbike folks on tight roads.

My point is, if there is one motorcycle you keep around as a "glad it's there 'cuz it's so cheap to keep" motorcycle, a KLR is it.

I gave my son mine wonderful '03 model, and I already miss it. I may even get another here soon... Or I may try a Suzuki DR650. But IMHO there is nothing more truly *usable* overall than a big, dual-sport single like the KLR.

Just my two centavos... YMMV.

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Well Dallara… after this description and looking as every ST owner in this post is an ex-KLR, I must look for a Kawa….

Its strange, I don’t know any who rides one, it looks as in Spain this bike wasn’t so popular…

Anyway, I like the idea of a KLR/Versys simple bike. I was looking to do something like this with a TDM engine but was too expensive and complex…. And Yamaha launch the ST….

Hope Yamaha can do something similar with the new triple they build: About 200 kg + 750cc + good suspensions + 21”/18” wheels + Yamaha reliability = my next bike
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:41 AM   #14137
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With all these nice KLR shots I couldn't help noticing they all were missing the most
important KLR farkle. So I thought I would put together a group buy.

I just spilled my coffee I'm laughing so hard!
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:52 AM   #14138
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What the heck? I am here trying to gather information on my next possible ride and all I get is a bunch of crap about how great the KLR is? I know how great the KLR is, I have one and it rocks! So how on earth is one supposed to justify to their wife (who is sitting right here next to me - she rides a DR650 herself) a decision about what their next ride ought to be? Guess it won't be the Yamaha. Perhaps the guys over on the MTS1200 and the Explorer threads are a little more enthusiastic about their rides. Sheesh!

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I have both a KLR and S10. Hands down the S10 gets ridden and the KLR sits. The S10 is brilliant right out of the box. This may be part of the reason why this thread wanders and gets off topic a bit. The Tenere is solid, reliable and extremely competent dual sport. You can only say this so many times, hence we entertain ourselves on this thread with diversions. If your'e looking for a KLR on steroids this is your bike. It's 40 degrees out and raining, think I'll take the Tenere for a spin.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:19 AM   #14139
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but for really technical off-road terrain IMHO the KLR holds the edge...

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What was it you said?

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Old 11-07-2012, 05:22 AM   #14140
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Come on grandpa's, forget your old fashioned KLR (and wfopete) and ride the incredible Super Ténéré. You can do the same but more refined and fun!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yQRU...1&feature=plcp
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:17 AM   #14141
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We've done a range of bikes and for the apocalypse, another KLR will not be owned by us. Kawi built them forever and sold them cheap, just like Chinese scooters that have taken over the 3rd world. That doesn't speak to their capabilities or any other quality. Jaumev, I've seen them in Toulouse on a number of occasions, so they can't be far away, but of course that is a town with broke college students. While cheap and plentiful, the things sound like an overgrown Briggs & Stratton, weigh in like a garden tractor, and have performance to match.

When the apocalypse comes, I'll take a Suzi DR650 hands down.

For most everything else, I'll hold the Tenere.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:42 AM   #14142
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When the apocalypse comes, I'll take a Suzi DR650 hands down.

For most everything else, I'll hold the Tenere.

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Old 11-07-2012, 06:47 AM   #14143
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Done the KLR....

My opinion, my 2 cents:

If you like to work on your bike, than the KLR is a good bike. I got to the point of working on the KLR every week so I could ride on the weekend. I had done most of the modifications in the forums to make it more reliable. On one of my last trips, the bike started stalling and I needed to override the safety switches in the clutch and kickstand. The last straw for me though was sitting in a convenience store parking lot with the bike on it's sidestand, and it fell over. The kickstand on the KLR is too long and the bike stands too much upright. People have been modifying the kickstand by making it 1 inch shorter to prevent this. For me, Kawasaki not being able to engineer a proper side stand was the last straw. The KLR is gone and a Super Tenere now sits in it's spot in the garage.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:20 AM   #14144
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When the apocalypse comes, I'll take a Suzi DR650 hands down.

For most everything else, I'll hold the Tenere.

It's recommendations like yours that make me want to try a Suzuki DR650 as my next big single, more off-road oriented, mount. I've never owned one, primarily because the dealer here is, uh... not somebody I will do business with.

OTOH, or Kawasaki/Yamaha dealer is fantastic (and an old friend), so it's been some KLR's and a couple of Versys, along with an FJR and the Super Ténéré the past few years.

But more and more I see that I need to try a DR. Also thinking about something even smaller and lighter, though... Like a WR250R or KLX250.

Funny hearing about folks with KLR issues. I never really had any, and I found them easy to maintain. And I never had one fall off its sidestand. And IMHO, anything that has a 21"/18" wheel combination and weighs well over a hundred pounds less is always better in tighter, single-track conditions than a 600+ lbs behemoth with 19"/17" road-width wheels and tires.

YMMV, of course.

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Old 11-07-2012, 07:27 AM   #14145
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Too bad I didn't have my KLR, I could have just gone around this little issue but I was on the S10 and well...you know.


wow... my s10 goes over shit like that on a regular basis
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