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Old 11-24-2012, 08:11 AM   #14416
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"can I put more than 5Kg on the back of the Tenere? Will it break? Can it take it?"



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Old 11-24-2012, 09:43 AM   #14417
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"can I put more than 5Kg on the back of the Tenere? Will it break? Can it take it?"



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Old 11-24-2012, 10:01 AM   #14418
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Old 11-24-2012, 10:25 AM   #14419
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I want a video of him getting it off of the center stand!

I made the mistake of putting my pig (not a Yamaha) up on the center stand to get the last few drops of fuel into the tank, that was an adventure to get back down on a slippery piece of concrete by the pumps!!!

These are really REALLY starting to grow on me. Maybe if my current ride ever craps out I'll look into replacing it with one of these...

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Old 11-25-2012, 05:40 AM   #14420
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Folks thinking a 1200cc parallel twin shouldn't vibrate... any... at all. Period.

Others thinking a bike is not completely equipped unless it has gear indicator...



Sorry, but I have to laugh. Seems to me if you want glass-smooth you'd be buying a four- or six-cylinder touring bike, and most of those come with gear indicators - though I still don't why anyone would want, or need, a gear indicator. Maybe I've just been riding too long, but folks, you have no idea what "vibration" is until you've ridden some 1960's and '70's British parallel twins, or any American V-twins... Lots of Italian mounts, too. And none of 'em had gear indicators that I can remember, either. And there were lots of Jap twins that buzzed like paint shakers, too.

To each his own, but as already been pointed out, seems to me perhaps a big twin dual-sport might not be the right choice of motorcycle if you are expecting glass smoothness. And the only manufacturer I can think of right now that is using any sort of rubber engine mounts is Harley-Davidson, and that's only on certain model lines. The rest use solid mounted, counterbalanced engines.

Of course, I don't have my Super Tenere just yet, but I'm not expecting it to be as smooth as a Gold Wing. I'm expecting it to have a few vibes here and there, just like my XR1200 and my Hypermotard, not to mention my parallel twin, counterbalanced Versys.

At this point I'm with the folks who say maybe you should just relax your grip on the bars a bit... Needless to say, YMMV.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming...

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Have to disagree. After spending 55,000 km aboard a TDM900, which was very smooth and vibration free at all cruising speeds, loping along like you'd expect a big twin, I took my first ride on its big brother the S10 this weekend, racking up 2000 km, and was pretty bummed out to be getting numbed hands at 3500 rpm/100 kph -- a lowly 60 mph. And it didn't get less obtrusive if I went faster. This engine feels like a busy, buzzy inline 4, not a relaxed big twin. Maybe the crossplane design, I don't know. But it was pretty disappointing after the TDM and other big twins I've owned.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:56 AM   #14421
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Have to disagree. After spending 55,000 km aboard a TDM900, which was very smooth and vibration free at all cruising speeds, loping along like you'd expect a big twin, I took my first ride on its big brother the S10 this weekend, racking up 2000 km, and was pretty bummed out to be getting numbed hands at 3500 rpm/100 kph -- a lowly 60 mph. And it didn't get less obtrusive if I went faster. This engine feels like a busy, buzzy inline 4, not a relaxed big twin. Maybe the crossplane design, I don't know. But it was pretty disappointing after the TDM and other big twins I've owned.


Well, first off, riding an S-10 with only 1,250 miles on it is hardly telling. As many, many owners have noted, myself included, the big Yamaha only gets smoother and smoother as it piles up the miles. I remember mine going through a rather dramatic "smoothing out" transition in the 3,000 to 5,000 mile stretch (4,800 to 8,000 km)... And it has only gotten smoother since then.

But again, as said in the February 2011 (man, oh man, that was reaching waaaaaaaaaay back! ), I never expected my Super Ténéré to be glass-, Gold-Wing-smooth... Not with pistons flying up and down the size of coffee cans. and let's not forget that it has a third-again more displacement than your ol' TDM. That's a sizable difference. Like I said, you have no idea what "twin vibration" is until you've ridden a '60's or '70's H-D Sportster, or a '60's British vertical-twin...

Give the big S-10 a few miles and see if your opinion changes. I think it will.

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Old 11-25-2012, 07:30 AM   #14422
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"can I put more than 5Kg on the back of the Tenere? Will it break? Can it take it?"


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8 cases is noteworthy but i think it is easier to load if you use milk crates





its easier to get it off the centerstand than it is to get it back on when you stop... you might need some co2 for a big keg party also.



or a keg of Sam



sometimes you might need to carry a sheet of durock or a roll of tar paper and some PVC





or a sub panel or shelving





or take your dog to the groomer






i have also carried couple bags of concrete, 2 bundles of shingles, or a roll of 6 foot chain link fence. a very versatile bike
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:53 AM   #14423
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Have to disagree. After spending 55,000 km aboard a TDM900, which was very smooth and vibration free at all cruising speeds, loping along like you'd expect a big twin, I took my first ride on its big brother the S10 this weekend, racking up 2000 km, and was pretty bummed out to be getting numbed hands at 3500 rpm/100 kph -- a lowly 60 mph. And it didn't get less obtrusive if I went faster. This engine feels like a busy, buzzy inline 4, not a relaxed big twin. Maybe the crossplane design, I don't know. But it was pretty disappointing after the TDM and other big twins I've owned.
I have to agree with Dallara 100%. Give the engine time and it will smooth out. When I first bought mine last year, the vibes were killing my feet and hands. I had ridden motorcycles with every type of engine known to man prior to the S10; boxer twin, singles, V four, inline four, etc.. None of them bothered me the way this thing did. I didn't expect an inline twin to be glass smooth but I also didn't expect my hands and feet to tingle and buzz for hours after riding either. I freely admit that I whined and bitched extensively here. I even got Yamaha customer relations involved. The recurring advice I got from others was to give it time. This motor takes a looooong time to break in. That was the only thing that kept me going. Initially, instead of wanting to ride my new bike I had to force myself to ride it. I'm glad I did though. As the miles accumulated, the bike became smoother. At 13k miles and counting, I'm happy to say that my S10 is a completely different machine. It still has that big twin "character" that I wanted but it no longer feels like I'm riding a giant sex toy.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:50 AM   #14424
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compared to my (paint shaker) 640A my S10 is silky smoooooth.

At 2800 miles it's now starting to do everything better. Shifting, power etc.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:30 AM   #14425
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This engine feels like a busy, buzzy inline 4, not a relaxed big twin.
That's an absolutely comical statement regarding this motor, couldn't be less accurate.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:50 AM   #14426
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I have to agree with Dallara 100%. Give the engine time and it will smooth out. When I first bought mine last year, the vibes were killing my feet and hands. I had ridden motorcycles with every type of engine known to man prior to the S10; boxer twin, singles, V four, inline four, etc.. None of them bothered me the way this thing did. I didn't expect an inline twin to be glass smooth but I also didn't expect my hands and feet to tingle and buzz for hours after riding either. I freely admit that I whined and bitched extensively here. I even got Yamaha customer relations involved. The recurring advice I got from others was to give it time. This motor takes a looooong time to break in. That was the only thing that kept me going. Initially, instead of wanting to ride my new bike I had to force myself to ride it. I'm glad I did though. As the miles accumulated, the bike became smoother. At 13k miles and counting, I'm happy to say that my S10 is a completely different machine
That or you just went numb Scotty. Lol.
The firing order and parallel design will contribute. But I will say, I rode my buddies Super 10 and it was very smooth to me and it didnt have much mileage on it either.




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Old 11-25-2012, 01:47 PM   #14427
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That or you just went numb Scotty. Lol.
The firing order and parallel design will contribute. But I will say, I rode my buddies Super 10 and it was very smooth to me and it didnt have much mileage on it either.




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For some reason there were a few bikes that were buzzier than the majority when they were new. I guess I just had a really tight motor. I like to think that mine was built to tighter tolerances so it should last longer than most.
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:19 PM   #14428
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I owned a DL1000 and went to ride day a year or so ago and happened to get a ride on an S10 and a Tedium with about the same amount of Km (1500 I think)

I had spent lot's of time on the Strom getting the engine as smooth as I could and compared to a couple of other Strom I tried it was a bit smoother.

In the end the Tedium was the smoothest, The S10 was a bit rougher and the DL1000 was bit more rougher.

I liked the little Tedium motor and the S10 motor but only the Strom gave me any complaints in the buzzy hand department and that was usually only after 5 hours on low octane fuel.

My current ride (S10) is really smooth except at around 4000rpm where a few vibes tend to intrude a bit.

I have never ridden a new S10 though.
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:20 PM   #14429
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For some reason there were a few bikes that were buzzier than the majority when they were new. I guess I just had a really tight motor. I like to think that mine was built to tighter tolerances so it should last longer than most.
You should be still here in 20 years then
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Old 11-25-2012, 03:03 PM   #14430
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