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Old 01-30-2010, 03:46 PM   #1
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What's become of the small 4x4 truck?

The first couple generations of the Toyota Tacoma were beautiful things. Small, bulletproof, go-anywhere, always-start vehicles. They simply carried you and your shit. The 4-bangers had enough power and got damn good mileage. I'd get ~24mpg. They were the perfect vehicle for me. I've had two, and my heart was broken having had to turn them into Toyota for crushing due to frame rust.

The new generation Tacos are enormous. They're not far removed from the Tundra. So having been twice bitten by bad frames, I went with a Frontier. Also huge. Great 6cyl engine/power. Rotten mileage (~19). Many annoying design/construction points.

The small 4cyl 4x4 truck just does not exist anymore, as far as I can tell. Everybody I talk to who has or has had a Tacoma has the same lament. Seems a big hole in the market. There's no longer anything even close to fitting those requirements. I'm thinking of ditching the Frontier for something Subaru-ish, with a trailer.

Anyone have a set up with ground clearance and that goes everywhere they want it to, can carry a bike/tow a trailer, but gets somewhere near 25mpg?
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Old 01-30-2010, 03:49 PM   #2
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They rusted to dust.
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Old 01-30-2010, 03:51 PM   #3
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'Suzuki SX4 with 2" suspension lift and 215/75R15 siped mudders.

'Over 25MPG on the highway, FWD/AWD/4WD, and pulls 1000lb of trailer and bikes just fine.
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Old 01-30-2010, 03:54 PM   #4
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'Suzuki SX4 with 2" suspension lift and 215/75R15 siped mudders.

'Over 25MPG on the highway, FWD/AWD/4WD, and pulls 1000lb of trailer and bikes just fine.
Got any pictures of this little beast?
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:00 PM   #5
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They rusted to dust.
Yeah, that's true. Lots of 80's Toyotas end up as homemade flatbeds, that's for sure.

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'Suzuki SX4 with 2" suspension lift and 215/75R15 siped mudders.

'Over 25MPG on the highway, FWD/AWD/4WD, and pulls 1000lb of trailer and bikes just fine.
Interesting...
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:04 PM   #6
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The Ranger hasn't grown in size, and after over a decade without a noticeable change, they are pretty well sorted.
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:05 PM   #7
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This thing got my attention.

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Old 01-30-2010, 04:08 PM   #8
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The Ranger hasn't grown in size, and after over a decade without a noticeable change, they are pretty well sorted.
Money pits, though, from several friends' accounts. (Not that that Volvo wouldn't be.)
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:11 PM   #9
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They cost too much to make. Why buy a 4 cylinder, when for the same dough, you can get an 8.

If they sold well, they would still be made.
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:14 PM   #10
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Money pits, though, from several friends' accounts. (Not that that Volvo wouldn't be.)
I have a couple of friends that love theirs, and haven't done much of anything but scheduled maintenance.
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:20 PM   #11
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I have a couple of friends that love theirs, and haven't done much of anything but scheduled maintenance.
I could have sworn that production of the Ranger was to be done last year or early '10.
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:20 PM   #12
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They cost too much to make. Why buy a 4 cylinder, when for the same dough, you can get an 8.

If they sold well, they would still be made.
But the Tacoma never stopped selling well. It just grew. The niche it used to fill is now empty, but you can't shrink a model. With fuel headed in the direction it is, a lot of buyers are going to be standing around in that niche with cash in hand.
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:28 PM   #13
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I could have sworn that production of the Ranger was to be done last year or early '10.
It has been on the chopping block forever. My understanding is that the plant in St. Paul, MN that makes them can't really be retooled to make anything else, so as long as they sell, they just keep cranking them out. No one has come up with a feasible land use plan for the site (along the river between Mpls and St. Paul).
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:29 PM   #14
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Sorry.

Just found this thread:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=539696

...with lots of the same.
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:35 PM   #15
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Got any pictures of this little beast?
Do you have internet access?


http://images.google.com/images?q=su...N&hl=en&tab=wi

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