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Old 01-30-2010, 04:45 PM   #16
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It thought he had one of his own he might post a picture of. Been googling away since, considering a lifted econo/rally car and trailer to replace my silverado.
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:47 PM   #17
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I had a 95 4x4 ford ranger, with a small 6(3 liter) great truck I put a 140k on it. It had original exhaust,waterpump,altenator, battery when I sold it. Parked outside year round. I still see it around town great truck. look for one used. I had a toyota before good engine,but not as well built as the ford. rust bucket
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:47 PM   #18
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Seems like alot of these small 4X4's had relatively terrible fuel economy. If you can only get 18 mpg with the small engine, and you're getting 16 with the V8, plus the ability to haul more weight as needed. It makes sense to purchase the standard size truck, not the small truck.

That said, I loved the small 4X4's when set up with taller narrow tires, roll bar, and a skid plate.
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:53 PM   #19
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forgot to add that the ranger wasnt great on gas, maybe 21mpg. Not great for a 147horsepower engine, my gmc 5.3 liter gets 17. maybe 10 in 4 wheel drive.
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Old 01-30-2010, 05:03 PM   #20
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If you don't mind driving an older truck, go back to the pre Tacoma year trucks ( like the 89-94 ). They may not have some of the bling of the newer trucks, but you said you liked the older ones you had. It may be hard to find one thats not -a rust bucket there in Maine, but theres lots of em in other parts of the country with no rust and still logging big miles. I just bought a 93 with the 22r 5 sd. standard cab with 191k, 22mpg. around town and runs/handles great.

What really impressed me was it's still all original and the thing drives like its on rails. Of course it rides like a truck, but it handles like a sporty small car. The front end and steering is still tight. No out of alignment or tie rod problems. I've had several Ford and Chevy trucks, and by 150k max, the front ends need rebuilding.

Lots of places now are specializing on the pre Tacoma years and restoring them because of just what you said. The new Tacos (some) have rusty frames, get shitty mileage, have gotten too big, and too expensive.

I don't know about you, but i don't want a $25- $30k truck to work out of, load fire wood in, take loads to the dump with, go four wheelin with...

This is my third (and newest) Toyota pickup, and if/when i ever sell this one, they'll be another in the driveway.

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Old 01-30-2010, 05:23 PM   #21
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'Muricans don't need die-hard fuel efficient 4x4 trucks. Now go out and be happy with your F-350 and a nice $30,000 chromed out cruiser.
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Old 01-30-2010, 05:26 PM   #22
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Old 01-30-2010, 05:33 PM   #23
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The Ranger hasn't grown in size, and after over a decade without a noticeable change, they are pretty well sorted.
Can you get it with a 4-banger?
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Old 01-30-2010, 05:34 PM   #24
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But the Tacoma never stopped selling well. It just grew. The niche it used to fill is now empty, but you can't shrink a model. With fuel headed in the direction it is, a lot of buyers are going to be standing around in that niche with cash in hand.
Because that is what buyers demanded. If the larger models did not sell well, they would have shrank.
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Old 01-30-2010, 05:43 PM   #25
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Can you get it with a 4-banger?
Yep. 2.5L four, 3.0 six, 4.0 six. Manual or automatic with any motor. I'm looking at them for a 'shit, I moved back to the US and need a car now' purchase. You can find recent 4cyl manual models all day long for 5-7 grand.
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Old 01-30-2010, 06:26 PM   #26
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I looked at both small and full size. why buy a small truck when the big ones get about the same mpg. for the same price. IMO they priced themselves out of the market. It got to the point that the small trucks were the same price as the full size trucks....????
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Old 01-30-2010, 06:40 PM   #27
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It has grown over the years, but the new Tacomas are fine by me.

I have an 08 model, 4x4, 4 cylinder 5 speed. It gets 23 miles per gallon on every tank since new. I ordered it to get exactly what I wanted. It cost me 18k dollars new.



I couldn't have been happier. It's been better than I could have ever hoped for.
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Old 01-30-2010, 06:44 PM   #28
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How about this small truck?

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Old 01-30-2010, 07:15 PM   #29
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It has grown over the years, but the new Tacomas are fine by me.

I have an 08 model, 4x4, 4 cylinder 5 speed. It gets 23 miles per gallon on every tank since new. I ordered it to get exactly what I wanted. It cost me 18k dollars new.



I couldn't have been happier. It's been better than I could have ever hoped for.
My fishing partner bought one of those. He said it was kind of hard to find. Turned out it was a base model work truck. For another $1000, he could have had a full size 1/2 ton with a 6 cylinder, manual trans. MPG almost identical.
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Old 01-30-2010, 07:17 PM   #30
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For another $1000, he could have had a full size 1/2 ton with a 6 cylinder, manual trans. MPG almost identical.
I thought all the 1/2 ton trucks had small V8s as the base motor.
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