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Old 01-31-2010, 07:28 AM   #46
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How about this small truck?

Were not these supposed to be on amerikan shelves by now?
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:10 AM   #47
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Were not these supposed to be on amerikan shelves by now?
Supposedly April now. They have been getting dealers lined up.
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:47 AM   #48
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I'd love a small truck, like the '84 Mazda I used to have, if I were in truck-buying mode.

I keep seeing the same two arguments here, and I don't really get either one.

The first: "For ----- dollars more you can get a full-size!!" Well, who cares? I don't WANT a full size. I hate driving them, parking them, etc., and I don't need the towing capacity.

The second: "You can't get a small truck any more!!" FORD RANGER. It still exists, it's still small. I have a few friends who have them and every truck has been pretty damn reliable.

I just wish there were more choices.

I might be alone here, but if VW put a truck bed on the rabbit like in the old days I'd be all over it!
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:04 AM   #49
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I went from a 91 F150 getting 12 mpg to a 98 Ranger 4x4 with a 4.0/manual combo. I now get about 18 mpg. I wanted to go the MPG route with a 2.9/manual, but as a friend pointed out towing and passing are nice things to do. I've been very happy with the truck. I bought it at a state auction and it's the bare bones model but has A/C, and also has no carpet but rather rubber mat in the entire cab (perfect).

While it's a great little truck, I can get the same mileage in a modern full-size. I'm 6-6 and the little truck works well, but a bigger crew cab/long-box will be my next purchase, albeit years from now. I've hauled and pulled over a ton of pavers in one load which was definitely stretching it, and I easily load my bikes without even stepping in the bed. I use a Ready Ramp bed extender and can load all my crap with no problem.

Small trucks have their uses, but comparing them based solely on mileage really isn't a good one. Sure you can get mid-20's, but the lack of power will really tax you in certain situations if you work on a weight versus cube issue.
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:41 AM   #50
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Is that silver thing a Daihatsu?
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Old 01-31-2010, 10:02 AM   #51
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I went from a 91 F150 getting 12 mpg to a 98 Ranger 4x4 with a 4.0/manual combo. I now get about 18 mpg. I wanted to go the MPG route with a 2.9/manual, but as a friend pointed out towing and passing are nice things to do. I've been very happy with the truck. I bought it at a state auction and it's the bare bones model but has A/C, and also has no carpet but rather rubber mat in the entire cab (perfect).

While it's a great little truck, I can get the same mileage in a modern full-size. I'm 6-6 and the little truck works well, but a bigger crew cab/long-box will be my next purchase, albeit years from now. I've hauled and pulled over a ton of pavers in one load which was definitely stretching it, and I easily load my bikes without even stepping in the bed. I use a Ready Ramp bed extender and can load all my crap with no problem.

Small trucks have their uses, but comparing them based solely on mileage really isn't a good one. Sure you can get mid-20's, but the lack of power will really tax you in certain situations if you work on a weight versus cube issue.
I used the 4 cyl to haul loads up steep grades many many times. Way overloaded, sometimes over 1 ton. Its all in the gearing and they had that right. Only occasionally on the highway would I want more power. Power is more a state of mind than an absolute need.
Can't say about towing, the only things I wanted to tow was from the rental yards and they refused to hook up to any compact truck. Not enough weight.
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Old 01-31-2010, 10:31 AM   #52
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Old 01-31-2010, 10:42 AM   #53
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2010 Chevy Colorado -- 4-banger, 4x4, smaller than a ranger, right around $20k stripped. Nobody wants one. :shrug

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Old 01-31-2010, 10:58 AM   #54
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2010 Chevy Colorado -- 4-banger, 4x4, smaller than a ranger, right around $20k stripped. Nobody wants one. :shrug

and here comes all the haters. They won't buy American, only Toyota, because of their quality.
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:08 AM   #55
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2010 Chevy Colorado -- 4-banger, 4x4, smaller than a ranger, right around $20k stripped. Nobody wants one. :shrug

They are slightly larger than a Ranger (not much). The 4cyl is a good engine, 2.9L 190hp! and pretty decent mileage from what I hear. They do some goofy things to make them more profitable, but it's o.k. The frames don't rust and the gas pedals don't stick either.

Would be sweet with a small diesel!
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:10 AM   #56
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I do miss the small size of my old ranger, but up here in N michigan most truck are full size and I got tired of being the small guy on the road, especially in the winter. I feel so much safer in my full size gmc, although I always find a parking spot in the back of parking lots. hard to see backing up with a topper. I love that suzuki, never seen one before.
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:22 AM   #57
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:26 AM   #58
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2010 Chevy Colorado -- 4-banger, 4x4, smaller than a ranger, right around $20k stripped. Nobody wants one. :shrug

I read somewhere it's scheduled to be discontinued.

Which really answers the question of the op. They aren't being built because it is a declining market and has been for years. Thats why Toyota, Nissan et al abandoned it. Even Ford, as the other last remaining vestige has seen a steady decline in sales.
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:43 AM   #59
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I read somewhere it's scheduled to be discontinued.

Which really answers the question of the op. They aren't being built because it is a declining market and has been for years. Thats why Toyota, Nissan et al abandoned it. Even Ford, as the other last remaining vestige has seen a steady decline in sales.
You may be right. However, there are two other things to consider: The Ranger is an ancient design, and the Colorado is pretty much thought to be a piece of junk. Plus it's mid-size. "Small" trucks have been getting bigger and bigger. I really believe that if the Japanese brought back really small trucks that got 30+ mpg, the market would be there, but I could be wrong.
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:56 AM   #60
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The idea of this thread was a small truck. Regular cab pups are not as popular as access cab in the Toyota line (I sell them). An access cab 4x4 4 cylinder is around $23k and is the same size of the V6 but not as tall. That is a nice little '08 there.
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