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Old 04-05-2011, 03:40 PM   #226
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I know nothing-zero-nadda-zip about guitars but have had an itch to learn for some time now. My girlfriend is musically inclined and pushing me to go out and try it. It sounds like purchasing from a dealer and trying to get a "package" deal is a better way to start things compared to just buying any guitar and having to do a bunch of stuff to it later. I'm going to start looking around and asking local dealers for advice, etc. I'm primarily interested in learning the acoustic guitar and learning on my own to start things off. My local community college also offers classes that I may give a try.

If anyone is in the Southern California area and knows any good shops or has beginner advice I'll certainly take it!

And since this is a motorcycle website, have any of you weekend warriors taken your guitars out on your motorcycle adventures? (If so, Pictures Please!).

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Here's some advice, from a music store owner, for guitar buyers:

1. Ignore the name on the headstock. I can't tell you how many times a week I get asked "Do you have any Fenders?" or Gibson or whatever brand. A majority of the time, after further investigation, I will find out that the person asking the question wants one because their hero plays one and that more often than not, the person has never played one of the aforementioned brands but is stuck on that brand as a result of marketing alone. When in comes to quality for the money, it has never been a better time to be a guitar buyer. There are more well made guitars at better prices than ever before. I've sold and played many $200.00 guitars that were of better quality than many of the $3,000.00 guitars I've sold. Ignore the name on the headstock.....mostly. I'd still recommend sticking with a "name" brand, but just because it says Fender or Martin or Gibson or does not mean its a good guitar.

2. Buy from a quality independant dealer, not the big box stores. Sorry folks, but GC and Musicians Friend doesn't really give a shit. When you buy your guitar there it most likely has never been touched by a technician and checked out for playability and function. It's simply pulled out of a box and put on the sales floor or shipped to you. A quality independant dealer will do an inspection of the guitar and properly set it up before it ever reaches their sales floor. For the most part price isn't an issue either as most indy dealers will match the big box stores price.

3. If you've found a particular model of guitar that you like, ask to play several different ones of that model. This is particularly true of acoustics. No matter how hard manufacturers try for consistency in a particular model, no two trees are alike and the woods will respond differently.

4. Ask about extras with the sale. My shop, for instance, gives free string changes for a year (you have to buy the strings from us) and free neck adjustments for life with the purchase of a guitar from us. In our shop part of the string change process is that we clean and polish the guitar, tighten any loose hardware and inspect it for operation, and check and adjust the neck, bridge, nut, and action if needed. We offer the free string changes not just to increase sales, but because we actuall CARE about whether your guitar is still performing as it should and the free string changes allow us to get our hands on your guitar to make sure all is right. We want you to be successful with music and having a properly functioning guitar is crucial to that.

5. It isn't all about the dollar amount. If it is all about the dollar amount for you, then I feel sorry for you. This refers, in some part, to number 2 above. Granted, there are some bad apples in the barrel, so all the following applies to QUALITY indy dealers. Chances are the indy dealer will match the big box price, but even if he just comes close, consider the other, unseen benefits. The indy dealer is more likely to be able to recommend good teachers. The indy dealer is more likely to have good product knowledge and take the time to find the right product to suit your individual needs. The indy dealer is more likely to remember you when you come back in a month later with a problem. More importantly, they'll actually CARE when you come back with a problem. The indy dealer is the one who donates to your kids little league fund raiser. The indy dealer is the one who volunteers in your community to make it a better place to live.

GC, MF, and internet store lovers feel free to flame away.
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Old 04-06-2011, 08:08 AM   #227
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I know nothing-zero-nadda-zip about guitars but have had an itch to learn for some time now. My girlfriend is musically inclined and pushing me to go out and try it. It sounds like purchasing from a dealer and trying to get a "package" deal is a better way to start things compared to just buying any guitar and having to do a bunch of stuff to it later. I'm going to start looking around and asking local dealers for advice, etc. I'm primarily interested in learning the acoustic guitar and learning on my own to start things off. My local community college also offers classes that I may give a try.

If anyone is in the Southern California area and knows any good shops or has beginner advice I'll certainly take it!

And since this is a motorcycle website, have any of you weekend warriors taken your guitars out on your motorcycle adventures? (If so, Pictures Please!).
If you want to learn on your own check out www.justinguitar.com A VERY good site.

I would suggest that if possible you take someone that knows how to play with your for your first buy. Other than that don't spend a ton on your first guitar...your tastes will change as you learn.
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Old 04-07-2011, 10:32 AM   #228
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I know nothing-zero-nadda-zip about guitars but have had an itch to learn for some time now. My girlfriend is musically inclined and pushing me to go out and try it. It sounds like purchasing from a dealer and trying to get a "package" deal is a better way to start things compared to just buying any guitar and having to do a bunch of stuff to it later. I'm going to start looking around and asking local dealers for advice, etc. I'm primarily interested in learning the acoustic guitar and learning on my own to start things off. My local community college also offers classes that I may give a try.

If anyone is in the Southern California area and knows any good shops or has beginner advice I'll certainly take it!

And since this is a motorcycle website, have any of you weekend warriors taken your guitars out on your motorcycle adventures? (If so, Pictures Please!).

Buy a mid-line guitar. It's very tempting to go "budget" to see if you're going to like playing, but many people end up buying junk guitars and giving up. With a little better guitar you'll get better fit, finish and playability. Beyond that a better guitar is easier to recoup your investment from if you decide that it's not for you.

Look for something in the $300-$500 range with a solid top, back and sides. Taylor, Martin, Takamine, Yamaha and Washburn make good acoustic guitars.

This is a G chord:


This is a C chord


This is a D chord



Put those together and you'll be able to play an untold number of songs by every popular artist. No Roy Clark needed.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:08 AM   #229
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I am still pretty new, but have 4 guitars now....they are all fun and all sound a little different. I agree with the price range suggested, but also have someone that knows go with you if you can, they can help you. When I bought my first guitar about three years ago, and then put it down. About a year ago I wanted to try again, and took my first guitar to a shop....the action was SO HIGH it was impossible to play...I did not know any better, you read about setting up guitars, watch videos, but nothing is better then having someone you trust show you the ropes.

The cord that is killing me is F. I can get it every time, every note sounds great, but it takes so long for my fingers to lay it down....practice practice, and practice what you can't do not what you can. Once it is easy you got it.
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Old 04-07-2011, 12:53 PM   #230
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The cord that is killing me is F. I can get it every time, every note sounds great, but it takes so long for my fingers to lay it down....practice practice, and practice what you can't do not what you can. Once it is easy you got it.
Who needs an F chord?
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Old 04-07-2011, 01:31 PM   #231
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Who needs an F chord?
How you gonna play 'Let It Be' without one?



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Old 04-07-2011, 01:43 PM   #232
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How you gonna play 'Let It Be' without one?



Transpose it to a different key

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Old 04-07-2011, 02:44 PM   #233
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How you gonna play 'Let It Be' without one?



The same way I play "Blackbird."

I don't.
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Old 04-07-2011, 05:03 PM   #234
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"Hey Marty, how about that dreaded F chord



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Old 04-08-2011, 06:18 AM   #235
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I know nothing-zero-nadda-zip about guitars but have had an itch to learn for some time now. My girlfriend is musically inclined and pushing me to go out and try it. It sounds like purchasing from a dealer and trying to get a "package" deal is a better way to start things compared to just buying any guitar and having to do a bunch of stuff to it later. I'm going to start looking around and asking local dealers for advice, etc. I'm primarily interested in learning the acoustic guitar and learning on my own to start things off. My local community college also offers classes that I may give a try.

If anyone is in the Southern California area and knows any good shops or has beginner advice I'll certainly take it!

And since this is a motorcycle website, have any of you weekend warriors taken your guitars out on your motorcycle adventures? (If so, Pictures Please!).
Check out the Seagull S6 Original....great sounding....solid top....hand made in Canada. I got mine with a case for $399.

http://www.musiciansbuy.com/Seagull-S6-Original.html

Now, if I could just figure out how to play the darn thing.

I have been slowly working my way thru the Justin Guitar beginner lessons.
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Old 04-08-2011, 09:32 AM   #236
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Definitely check out the guitars and make sure they feel like you will be comfortable playing them. My niece just started at a performing arts college last fall and she got a very nice Takamine acoustic for $129.00. It plays fine and sounds good.

Also consider a nylon string guitar. They can be much easier to play and will sound good too. My favorite acoustic is a nylon string classical that I play rock and blues and jazz on.

The video posted above is a great place to start and youtube is a gold mine for guitar players. Just search for beginner guitar lessons.

The initial hump takes some time to get over before you feel like you can actually play something. Keep at it. It can be very, very rewarding.
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:26 AM   #237
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Thinking about getting a new little amp to play on the porch. My small amp is current a Roland 30x and while small it is a little heavy for me.

All of the amps I have now are Solid State amps....and I like them just fine...I have the 30x and a Line 6 spider 4 75w.

I am thinking about trying one of those beginner 5w tube amps. I also want a "look" to the amp. I am thinking about the baby Vox 5w amp and the Bulgera v5. I have read mix reviews of the bulgera but it does have a built in reverb that would be nice. There is also the VHT but I don't quite like the way it looks....I want something vintage looking...I know stupid but hay it is what I want.

Does anyone here have any of these amps? Guitar sites are pretty one sided to things that they think are cheap...and I want to stay around the $200 range.
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They're a little more money, but the Marshall Class 5 amps get a lot of rave reviews. And, they look/sound very vintage.

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Thinking about getting a new little amp to play on the porch. ...and I want to stay around the $200 range.
Played on one of these a few weeks ago and for a lil bugger, it had good tone...Might want to add it to your list. Buddy picked it up for $140 off craigslist





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Old 04-20-2011, 12:49 PM   #240
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Yup the little Fender is on my list as well...also the little Gretsch (I am told they are the same amp) I am starting my shopping.

Never had a tube amp before....anything I should know about the care and feeding of an amp with tubes?
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