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Old 10-05-2012, 03:40 PM   #781
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I have a Mustang II. I like it in many ways; sounds great, small enough, loud. It has almost too much going on for this Luddite, though. Granted, I don't play electric much. I know a few people that absolutely love them though; If you are into gadgetry, you'll probably really love it. If you're not, find a couple sounds you like and stick with them.
You should really try a tube amp. No fancy stuff but pure tone. Once you do you'll probably never go back to a solid state amp. Fender Blues Junior III (NOS), VOX AC15, Blackstar HT-5, etc...
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Old 10-05-2012, 03:48 PM   #782
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You should really try a tube amp. No fancy stuff but pure tone. Once you do you'll probably never go back to a solid state amp. Fender Blues Junior III (NOS), VOX AC15, Blackstar HT-5, etc...
I know; I really want a VOX, but the Mustang is so much less $$. Maybe I'll get into electric enough to justify it some day.
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Old 10-05-2012, 04:19 PM   #783
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You should really try a tube amp. No fancy stuff but pure tone. Once you do you'll probably never go back to a solid state amp. Fender Blues Junior III (NOS), VOX AC15, Blackstar HT-5, etc...

or get the best of both worlds, tube pre and post with modeling and effects:
http://peavey.com/products/index.cfm...be%26nbsp%3B60
http://peavey.com/products/index.cfm...e%26nbsp%3B120
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Old 10-05-2012, 04:43 PM   #784
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or get the best of both worlds, tube pre and post with modeling and effects:
http://peavey.com/products/index.cfm...be%26nbsp%3B60
http://peavey.com/products/index.cfm...e%26nbsp%3B120
I don't think he'll be wanting 60w or even 120w if he's happy using a Mustang right now.

For me, a small tube amp and a guitar is all I need.
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Old 10-05-2012, 04:48 PM   #785
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I don't think he'll be wanting 60w or even 120w if he's happy using a Mustang right now.

For me, a small tube amp and a guitar is all I need.
Who knows, but the 40 w Mustang II seems plenty loud for me, at least right now. I'll check out those Peavey's when I'm ready to move on, though.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:06 PM   #787
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:26 PM   #788
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Who knows, but the 40 w Mustang II seems plenty loud for me, at least right now. I'll check out those Peavey's when I'm ready to move on, though.
My 30w Crate GFX is plenty loud for me.

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Old 10-05-2012, 05:53 PM   #789
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Who knows, but the 40 w Mustang II seems plenty loud for me, at least right now. I'll check out those Peavey's when I'm ready to move on, though.
A good comparison I heard years back about wattage was the difference between a Ford and a Ferrari. Both will do 70mph, but one does it much better. Wattage and volume don't increase on a linear motion, it's kinda exponential.

Either way, the wattage isn't nearly as important. The Ford/Ferrari thing could be said for solid state and tube as well. A little 1 watt boutique tube amp will push a full stack cabinet to a much sweeter sound with plenty of volume for playing in the house, while 25 watts of really bad solid state (a la Fender Frontman) is loud enough to be terrible for the whole neighborhood.

Now the real problem is even the tiny boutiques cost too much to justify unless you're in a studio a lot, mic'ing the speaker cabinet. Maybe look at making your own, as it's really cheap and not terribly hard. Most of the stuff you need is sitting in Radio Shack, with some hardware store runs for building the enclosure.

I know that can be a stretch for a beginner but it's fun to do, and some of the best gear makers couldn't play worth a damn. I think Leonidas Fender was a sax and piano guy, while Orville Gibson was probably better on mandolin, and Laurens Hammond wasn't an organist. The list goes on, but you get the idea. Making good equipment is different (and sometimes easier) than making good music.
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:07 PM   #790
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Who knows, but the 40 w Mustang II seems plenty loud for me, at least right now. I'll check out those Peavey's when I'm ready to move on, though.
Keep in mind tube amps really want to be run hot and only get that nice breakup when cranked up. When you turn them down, they tend to clean up. So if you're at home and have the volume low, you don't get the nice breakup unless you crank it up a bit. The Peavey gets around this by not being all tube. The VOX Rectifier is also like this. The Blackstar as well. If you're going for a tube amp sound, you might as well get an all tube amp. You'll be surprised by how much you can change the tone with the volume. Also, keep in mind that tube amps tend to be louder then the equivalent SS amp. Most SS amps for beginners are in the 15-30w range while the tubes are usually 1-5w. 5w is almost too loud for home use.

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A good comparison I heard years back about wattage was the difference between a Ford and a Ferrari. Both will do 70mph, but one does it much better. Wattage and volume don't increase on a linear motion, it's kinda exponential.

Either way, the wattage isn't nearly as important. The Ford/Ferrari thing could be said for solid state and tube as well. A little 1 watt boutique tube amp will push a full stack cabinet to a much sweeter sound with plenty of volume for playing in the house, while 25 watts of really bad solid state (a la Fender Frontman) is loud enough to be terrible for the whole neighborhood.

Now the real problem is even the tiny boutiques cost too much to justify unless you're in a studio a lot, mic'ing the speaker cabinet. Maybe look at making your own, as it's really cheap and not terribly hard. Most of the stuff you need is sitting in Radio Shack, with some hardware store runs for building the enclosure.

I know that can be a stretch for a beginner but it's fun to do, and some of the best gear makers couldn't play worth a damn. I think Leonidas Fender was a sax and piano guy, while Orville Gibson was probably better on mandolin, and Laurens Hammond wasn't an organist. The list goes on, but you get the idea. Making good equipment is different (and sometimes easier) than making good music.
Not sure if I'd go to Radio Shack but there are several companies that make kit amps. The Marshall 18W and JTM45, the Fender Champ, Deluxe are pretty common. If you know how to solder then you can probably make one of these kits. This gives you the point-to-point wiring but costs a fraction of the boutique amps. Great value and usually pretty good parts. I'm tempted to make a Fender tweed.
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:36 PM   #791
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Here’s what’s new and interesting at Lark Street Music in Teaneck, New Jersey.

Here’s a 1953 Goldtop Les Paul that was owned by an American genius who hollowed it out from the back.

Upon seeing it, Les Paul’s personal luthier asked, “Did Les do this?”

This is a great-sounding guitar — but don’t try this at home. Well, OK, yes, try it! Just not on another ’53 Les Paul. Or a ’57. Maybe a ’72 … they’re mostly too heavy anyway. An early nudge to Gibson to lighten up!

For more information, check out Lark Street Music’s official website and Facebook page.

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I'm using an utter-piece-of-crap solid state Fender Frontman 15G now. It was okay playing with the band if I turned it up to ten this spring.

Back in the creative days of real music, I had a 1965 Fender SuperReverb. Massive overkill. One of the reasons I have trouble hearing these days.
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Crazy!Here’s a 1953 Goldtop Les Paul that was owned by an American genius who hollowed it out from the back.

My new Stratocaster is like a cross between a Gibson Les Paul and a classic Stratocaster. Fat humbucking sound with a lot of sustain married with the ergonomic superiority of a Stratocaster, with its light weight and ease of controllability.
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:11 PM   #794
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I'm using an utter-piece-of-crap solid state Fender Frontman 15G now. It was okay playing with the band if I turned it up to ten this spring.

Back in the creative days of real music, I had a 1965 Fender SuperReverb. Massive overkill. One of the reasons I have trouble hearing these days.
I had a Frontman 15 back '96. It was OK for a beginner but it was so steril. That's why when I started playing again, I went straight to a tube amp. I'm hooked.

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Well, that's kinda what a Junior is. The Junior is a great little guitar with the P90. Loads of sustain. Still heavier then a Strat I think though. A Melody Maker would be lighter then a Junior and the older ones had a P90 as well. new ones have a single-coil. I'm a Gibson guy though. Played a Strat when I was just starting and didn't like it. Although, I wouldn't mind a Tele.
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I had a Frontman 15 back '96. It was OK for a beginner but it was so steril. That's why when I started playing again, I went straight to a tube amp. I'm hooked.
I have an old Ibanez Tube Screamer, the only effect I ever use anymore, to spice things up.


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Well, that's kinda what a Junior is. The Junior is a great little guitar with the P90. Loads of sustain. Still heavier then a Strat I think though. A Melody Maker would be lighter then a Junior and the older ones had a P90 as well. new ones have a single-coil. I'm a Gibson guy though. Played a Strat when I was just starting and didn't like it. Although, I wouldn't mind a Tele.
This new Strat is a little heavier than a basic Strat, but nothing like the Gibson Les Paul Customs I used to have. I had a couple Telecasters, too. Nothing is as handy for me as the Stratocaster shape, though. It's like an extension of my arms, highly controllable.
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