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Old 07-30-2013, 05:43 PM   #16951
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There is another "puente de Dios" in Tamasopo, San Luis Potosí, about a hour north from Cd. Valles, see video ( not mine).Beautiful place and you can swim and dive in it (TRICE?).
It is an amazing place to visit, but you have to be a very good swimmer the current is very strong!!!

http://youtu.be/VFq7i9wH71k
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Old 07-30-2013, 05:56 PM   #16952
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It is not Exactly Puente de Dios, but is part of the same river system.
I don't have the Lon/lat. but to get there you go to the Town of Aquismon just north of Xilitla on hwy85,
it's a little place, you have to go through there to get to the cave of swallows or the Rio Tamuin, where I took the Pic's.
just look for the suburbans with the kayaks on top..





And yes I could easily spend weeks exploring this area, great roads for Moto's, so many thing to see and do.
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Old 07-30-2013, 06:29 PM   #16953
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Yup. Tamasopo has a pretty river.

I think Puente de Dios is a popular name. ;)


Terrapineck has explored the Aquismon area extensively and has made the hike Bill made.

That whole area is just wonderful . We will go back.
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Old 07-30-2013, 07:53 PM   #16954
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I forgot to tell you who I was with... check it out!!



Well actually he was there the month before...
But makes for a good story...
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Old 07-30-2013, 08:55 PM   #16955
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Old 07-31-2013, 12:23 AM   #16956
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There is another "puente de Dios" in Tamasopo, San Luis Potosí, about a hour north from Cd. Valles, see video ( not mine).Beautiful place and you can swim and dive in it (TRICE?).
It is an amazing place to visit, but you have to be a very good swimmer the current is very strong!!!

http://youtu.be/VFq7i9wH71k
thanks for the info!

it's funny. when i googled puente de dios most showed that falls area in the video (awesome!) and only a few showed where i went.
those few pics are what caught my eye and intrigued me.
where is that???
i quickly figured out there are 2 puente de dios in mexico.
took me a bit, but i figured it out.
it's not the easiest place to visit...but you'll never forget it if you do.

https://www.google.com/search?q=puen...h=656#imgdii=_

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Old 07-31-2013, 02:23 PM   #16957
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Last November, i drove down Baja in my toyota pickup with my 07 KTM 525. Crossed the border at Calexico/Mexicali then to San Felipe then to Puertocitos, then Bay of Gonzaga. I drove down solo to photograph the baja 1000 race.

Just like traveling anywhere you keep your wits about you, dont drive at night and def dont buy any illegal substances. At no time did i feel unsafe in those cities/areas. Even the random military checkpoints weren't intimidating. They thought i was racing in the baja 1000, and wanted to know all about the bike!

Everybody warned me, don't drive solo, dont take your dirt bike, but alas i did both. It was the best trip ever! I met plenty of gringos down there who showed me the ropes, like where to buy beer and ice. (actual ICE BLOCK!) then, after all the racing was done we rode 40 miles down Matomi Wash and back, which is a gnarly waist high sand whoop part of the race course, with some really fun open stretches too.

all in all a great trip. IMO its safe and fun and beautiful, just keep you smarts about you


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Old 07-31-2013, 02:32 PM   #16958
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Well said. Perty good first post.
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Old 07-31-2013, 02:38 PM   #16959
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Excellent first post.. me likey Baja
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Old 07-31-2013, 03:22 PM   #16960
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Old 07-31-2013, 05:30 PM   #16961
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2011 San Fernando massacre also known as the second massacre of San Fernando,[1] was the mass murder of 193 people by Los Zetas drug cartel at La Joya ranch in the municipality of San Fernando, Tamaulipas, Mexico.[2] Authorities investigating the massacre reported numerous hijackings of passenger buses on Mexican Federal Highway 101 in San Fernando, and the kidnapped victims were later killed and buried in 47 clandestine mass graves.[2] The investigations began immediately after several suitcases and baggage were unclaimed in Reynosa and Matamoros, Tamaulipas.[3] On April 6, 2011, the Mexican authorities exhumed 59 corpses from eight mass graves.[4] By 7 June 2011, after a series of multiple excavations, a total of 193 bodies were exhumed from mass graves in San Fernando.[5]
Reports mentioned that female kidnapping victims were raped and able-bodied male kidnapping victims were forced to fight to the death with other hostages, similar to a "gladiator fight from ancient Rome," where they were given knives, hammers, machetes, and clubs to find recruits who were willing to kill for their lives.[6] In the blood sport, the survivor was recruited as a new hitman for Los Zetas; those who did not survive were buried in a clandestine gravesite.[7]
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:21 PM   #16962
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:22 PM   #16963
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2011 San Fernando massacre also known as the second massacre of San Fernando,[1] was the mass murder of 193 people by Los Zetas drug cartel at La Joya ranch in the municipality of San Fernando, Tamaulipas, Mexico.[2] Authorities investigating the massacre reported numerous hijackings of passenger buses on Mexican Federal Highway 101 in San Fernando, and the kidnapped victims were later killed and buried in 47 clandestine mass graves.[2] The investigations began immediately after several suitcases and baggage were unclaimed in Reynosa and Matamoros, Tamaulipas.[3] On April 6, 2011, the Mexican authorities exhumed 59 corpses from eight mass graves.[4] By 7 June 2011, after a series of multiple excavations, a total of 193 bodies were exhumed from mass graves in San Fernando.[5]
Reports mentioned that female kidnapping victims were raped and able-bodied male kidnapping victims were forced to fight to the death with other hostages, similar to a "gladiator fight from ancient Rome," where they were given knives, hammers, machetes, and clubs to find recruits who were willing to kill for their lives.[6] In the blood sport, the survivor was recruited as a new hitman for Los Zetas; those who did not survive were buried in a clandestine gravesite.[7]

You ask if this is true?? Yes, but very old news.....you can not base the current situation of an area on things that happened 2 years ago.
Things here are very fluid....some times they change in a matter of a couple of weeks or months..
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:44 PM   #16964
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Precisely.

A principle purpose of this thread is not to explore the details of every tragic event that occurs in Mexico but to focus on the issues that pertain directly to those who travel Mexico by motorcycle. A number of us have ridden through San Fernando since this mass murder was uncovered and found nothing to indicate that these events presented our community of travelers with an increase in risk. That's not to say no one cares about what happened to these people. Just that it's not relevant to this thread. That's my take, anyway.

IMO, it's far more useful to focus on awareness of current activities and hot spots like Michoacan, for example, where the fragmented remains of La Familia are causing trouble. Or recent Zeta activity in and around the Fresnillo area. Not that there have been reports of motorcycle travelers being affected. Otherwise we are susceptible to the very sensationalism that has so many in the USA needlessly avoiding travel to Mexico which has brought economic hardship to many good people there.
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Old 08-01-2013, 04:43 AM   #16965
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Just returned from three weeks in Mexico. A group of us just barely escaped alive after being kidnapped.

Spent a week in Morelia. The day before we were to head back home, Juan, the owner of the hotel, pulled up in a van. A small group of us were standing outside in the front of the hotel. He said to us "My wife's brother's niece has a neighbor who's ex-wife knows a guy that owns a gun. Get into the van and be quick about it."

Our first reaction was to scatter and run, but with that kind of fire power, we decided to do as told and got into the van. From the hotel he started slowly winding his way through the streets of Morelia. He continually forced us to look at things like, parks, statues, fountains, and worst of all, the aqueduct. Sometimes we were even required to take pictures.

After what seemed liked hours of this torture, he headed out toward the country side. In our minds we could already see the shallow graves in the hill side where he was going to dump our headless bodies. He continued further and further out into the country side away from Centro. He then made a turn into the hills. Our end was near. We knew that we would never live to see another day, and then he turned into one of the most exclusive golf communities in Mexico.

After parking the van, he forced us to go inside the main club house. Once inside we had to sit in chairs, at a table, and consume vast quantities of food and drinks. We had to keep eating until we could eat no more. Barely able to move, we were then required to go on a tour of the facility. We started walking, and walking, and walking. It seemed like the walking would never end. It was just like a WWII Death March. This place was huge. To add insult to injury, we were not even allowed to pay for our own last meal.

Finally he allowed us to drag our over fed bodies back to the van. That is when we figured out what his real plan was. He had been fattening us up to feed to the farmer's pigs.

Trapped in the van and unable to escape, we had to endure the trip back to Morelia. After being forced to once again to look at statues, parks, buildings, cathedrals, and fountains, we finally arrived back at the hotel. This is when we saw the opportunity to make our escape. Taking advantage of this unexpected event, we thanked our host and made a mad dash from the van back into the hotel, barely escaping with our lives. We are very lucky to be alive today. If not for our superior survival techniques, we probably would not have survived the ordeal, and would be lying headless in a shallow grave in the middle of the golf community.

Due to this traumatic event, I feel that I should advise everyone NOT TO GO TO MEXICO. IT IS NOT SAFE.

Personally, I will never go back to Mexico again. It is too dangerous. Oh, I forgot about my up coming trip to Mazatlan in November. After that I will stay in the good ole USA where it is safe. Maybe go out to Denver and take in a movie. Dang, there is the 2014 Rat Ride in Cuernavaca next July. Yeah, that will be my last trip to Mexico. After that, maybe take up a safe sport like running marathons.

This event is true and actually happened to us. I have the pictures in my RR to prove it.


Can I re-post this on my facebook to show the people who are worried about my trip?
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