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Old 01-13-2014, 08:28 AM   #19756
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Traveling in Mexico sounds like something from A&E.

At the very least, it should have been "Riding Mexico" or "Riding in Mexico".
Next thing you know, they'll be a whack of Lake Chapala real estate agents, life coaches, retired bureaucrats, and self-important Euro naturalist nudists, and trustafarians telling narco stories on here while clucking their collective tongues spreading urban legends. If I wanted that, I'd read a Dan Diego post.
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Old 01-13-2014, 08:33 AM   #19757
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Would love to know who changed the title of the thread to "Traveling in Mexico.."
I changed the title at Baldy's request.
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Old 01-13-2014, 08:34 AM   #19758
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Well!!! at least He or Them responsable for changing the threads name should have given notice about it, and what are the motives to do it..

I support the use of the original name.

A Salomonic way to paliate the damages of changing the name (even the thread starter could´nt find it). Will be to add the IMS title alongside the new name.
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Old 01-13-2014, 08:41 AM   #19759
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Fuerzas Autodefensas

An fresh, interesting article from Business Insider forwarded to me last night

When riding in Mexico you could come around the corner and find the road blocked by guys with guns. Understandably, your blood pressure rises, and your spidey senses kick into high gear.

But wait, are they the cartel? Are you going to be robbed or kidnapped?

Fuerzas Autodefensas - "Self Defense Forces" - are springing up around Mexico in response to the cartels. Read the article about who they are, why they're forming, and where they're concentrated.

Knowledge of what's happening helps with situational awareness.

Just like riders who encounter "the rope across the road" for the first time - they think the gig is up. Then they realize its the local campesinos looking for a few pesos for filling in pot holes on the bridge.

A little time spent keeping up with culture and politics gives you perspective.
The Guardian is carrying a similar story.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...l-nueva-italia

The BBC also finds it news worthy.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-25708297
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Old 01-13-2014, 08:42 AM   #19760
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Thread titles belong to the thread initiator (the "OP")

Unless the thread title violates site rules (and I can't think of one that ever has, certainly Is Mexico Safe? does not), or the OP requests a change, a unilateral change is unwarranted.

This all said, as suggested before, send a polite PM to one or more of the Trip Planning moderators. They may not be reading these posts.
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Old 01-13-2014, 08:42 AM   #19761
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I read a book like this!


Atlas Shrugged ?
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Old 01-13-2014, 08:48 AM   #19762
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I personally prefer the title: "Is Mexico dangerous?"
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Old 01-13-2014, 10:22 AM   #19763
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i personally prefer the title: "is mexico dangerous?"
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Old 01-13-2014, 10:34 AM   #19764
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Maybe we could just start a new thread and call it,

Is Mexico safe.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:35 PM   #19765
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What's the "rope across the road" thing? Explain please. These vigilante groups, I assume they pose little or no threat to the out of country motorcyclist,since you pose no threat to them.

Comments from the locals?

And in response to whomever said, if you look at their guns,you can tell who they are ect...to me a gun is a gun, I can't differentiate between one or another,just that ones short,and ones long. All I would see wouLd be a guy with a gun,period.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:41 PM   #19766
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I was wondering what happened to the thread title. Kinda lame changing the title without at least dropping by to explain it.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:47 PM   #19767
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I was wondering what happened to the thread title. Kinda lame changing the title without at least dropping by to explain it.
Look back a few posts.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:48 PM   #19768
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What's the "rope across the road" thing? Explain please. These vigilante groups, I assume they pose little or no threat to the out of country motorcyclist,since you pose no threat to them.

Comments from the locals?

And in response to whomever said, if you look at their guns,you can tell who they are ect...to me a gun is a gun, I can't differentiate between one or another,just that ones short,and ones long. All I would see wouLd be a guy with a gun,period.
The rope across the road is used by different people to try to get propinas or tips. Road workers use it and people collecting for the Red Cross and other causes do it. It is not malicious, just annoying. The gun thing - I'll defer on that
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:48 PM   #19769
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This seems to raise an age old question: "Is Mexico Safe ?"

Come on Baldy and quit subverting our efforts here.
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Old 01-13-2014, 01:20 PM   #19770
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I was wondering what happened to the thread title. Kinda lame changing the title without at least dropping by to explain it.
Later when I'm on a regular computer I'll dig up Baldy's post earlier in this thread where he describes an anonymous threat made against the site via this thread for giving a false impression that traveling to Mexico is safe.

I can't remember, but maybe a thread title change was mentioned back then.

Regardless, I have a very good idea who said complainer was back then. Who knows what the current push is about. Baldy does. Maybe Chris will post here.

Still it's kind of odd to me that the mere title of a thread needed to be changed.

After all, "Is Mexico Safe?" is just a question. Opinions on this can differ.

In post #2 to this thread I opine on "Is Mexico really safe?" I have my opinion, others can have theirs.

To the degree that Mexico riding enthusiasts regularly post here and share a love for riding Mexico, well, if that implies I or anyone else is guaranteeing anything, please re-read the above reference.

There are far more controversial issues, fights, threats, porn, attacks etc, going in elsewhere on ADV. Our thread title, I would have thought, was a big so what.

This thread is really a tiny portion of the pie. A small table in a very big room.

But it must have some appeal in Trip Planning, with 2,000 replies and a million and a half hits.
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