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Old 02-08-2014, 06:26 AM   #20716
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being about two months away from my trip these discussions do concern me a bit...I would like to hear what your opinions are of areas I should avoid, be cautious, and be able to relax a bit.

Also would be interested to hear if there are any visible signs of recognition that the criminal elements utilize, like gang colors. I know there probably isn't but thought I would ask.

Also can someone some up the particular groups and there area of operations i.e Zetas, Knights Templar. It would be nice to have this put together.

I am going regardless, I just want to be better educated.

Thanks in advance.
here is a link http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-10681249

I take issue with central Sonora being shown as "disputed" El Chapo has it locked down here and aside from a few instances where cartel members have been harshly "disciplined", it is pretty calm
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Old 02-08-2014, 06:42 AM   #20717
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Mexico with a Pig

KustomizingKid was robbed twice last week on the ferry from Mazatlán to La Paz

Story in the RR above or individual link HERE

He intoned that it was bad enough to lose camera gear, but he especially laments that all his trip photos on the memory cards are gone.

This is a world wide travel concern, not just limited to Mexico

Last summer in Rome I saw travelers with mini luggage locks on their backpack zippers.
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Old 02-08-2014, 06:45 AM   #20718
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Mrs. TC checked them in an told then hotel rules prohibit shooting after 10pm.
Not only is that line damn funny, take a bow TC, it also illustrates precisely the sense of humour you need to live here.

With apologies to The Eagles for the updating..."We haven't had that spirit here since 1999".

When it comes to Mexico "Radio Vecino" trumps the BBC, CNN, AP, or any other letter combination combined.

Radio Vecino is a publically run broadcasting agency that can be very clearly heard throughout Mexico and anyone can tune in 24/7/365. It is only matched by its sister station "Radio Chisme" though that signal can at times be unreliable.

Gringos are always welcomed to tune in and call in.
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Old 02-08-2014, 07:18 AM   #20719
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Radio Vecino

AM or FM? Which end of the dial?
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Old 02-08-2014, 07:23 AM   #20720
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Ak-47

I don't recall seeing any Federales or soldiers armed with AKs. Mostly M-16's or NATO type weapons. I have seen photos of people armed with AKs but they were clearly not "officials". If I were stopped by any armed men I would be worried. If I were stopped by men with AKs I would be puckered up seriously and trying to push the red button on my SPOT.
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Old 02-08-2014, 07:28 AM   #20721
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If I were stopped by men with AKs I would be puckered up seriously and trying to push the red button on my SPOT.
You know the old saying in suburban America:

"When seconds count, the police are only minutes away"

What you want on that SPOT device is the new Chuck Norris button

An extra $1,200 per month service fee, but priceless when you need it
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Old 02-08-2014, 07:58 AM   #20722
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To all those who are concerned about Mexico riding safety, watch out for spilled diesel on the road, especially if its been raining. Better yet, don't do high speed long distance rides in the rain. Besides Michoacan and Guerrero and a few border areas, I wouldn't hesitate to travel anywhere in Mexico. Remember, traffic and road conditions are you're biggest risks.
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Old 02-08-2014, 08:18 AM   #20723
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To all those who are concerned about Mexico riding safety, watch out for spilled diesel on the road, especially if its been raining. Better yet, don't do high speed long distance rides in the rain. Besides Michoacan and Guerrero and a few border areas, I wouldn't hesitate to travel anywhere in Mexico. Remember, traffic and road conditions are you're biggest risks.
As I have mentioned before, traffic accidents have taken more lives in Mexico than cartel violence, not to minimize the deaths, The US and Mexico both kill about 35000 people on the highways each year. Mexico has a third the population of the US and fewer miles driven and fewer cars. Bad roads, unsafe vehicles and poorly trained drivers are what to watch for. They can be anywhere. And don't forget the farm vehicles at dusk with no lights or reflectors.
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Old 02-08-2014, 08:28 AM   #20724
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To all those who are concerned about Mexico riding safety, watch out for spilled diesel on the road, especially if its been raining. Better yet, don't do high speed long distance rides in the rain. Besides Michoacan and Guerrero and a few border areas, I wouldn't hesitate to travel anywhere in Mexico. Remember, traffic and road conditions are you're biggest risks.
likewise PEMEX concrete can get mighty slippery, ask me how I know
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Old 02-08-2014, 08:33 AM   #20725
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Mexico with a Pig

KustomizingKid was robbed twice last week on the ferry from Mazatlán to La Paz

Story in the RR above or individual link HERE

He intoned that it was bad enough to lose camera gear, but he especially laments that all his trip photos on the memory cards are gone.

This is a world wide travel concern, not just limited to Mexico

Last summer in Rome I saw travelers with mini luggage locks on their backpack zippers.

Robbed is when physical force or the threat thereof is used to commit theft. What happened here is just theft .
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Old 02-08-2014, 08:35 AM   #20726
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Robbed is when physical force or the threat thereof is used to commit theft. What happened here is just theft .
What really happened was not being aware of ones surroundings, self, or stuff.
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Old 02-08-2014, 08:45 AM   #20727
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Robbed is when physical force or the threat thereof is used to commit theft. What happened here is just theft .
Ok, when you read it, change it in your mind to "was thieved twice"

I'll send a PM to Brandon and tell him he wasn't robbed, as he put it
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Old 02-08-2014, 08:51 AM   #20728
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In related news, keep your wits about you when you cross the boarder

(which usually happens when he finds out breakfast doesn't come with the room)

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Old 02-08-2014, 08:51 AM   #20729
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Besides Michoacan and Guerrero and a few border areas, I wouldn't hesitate to travel anywhere in Mexico. .
I am just hoping to get some intel on this. Everyone mentions "a few other areas", I would just like to hear what they are so I can plan accordingly.
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Old 02-08-2014, 09:20 AM   #20730
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likewise PEMEX concrete can get mighty slippery, ask me how I know
hahahaha I once pulled into a pemex and applied the front brake and down I went right by the pump! We picked up the bike, I took off my helmet and without missing a beat said Buenos Dias lleno con magna por favor
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