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Old 07-04-2011, 09:54 PM   #3706
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Back to the deposit on vehicles ... I think this horse has been beaten pretty much to death, but they tried this same system a few years ago and it only lasted for about 2 weeks.

Stay tuned.
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Old 07-04-2011, 09:54 PM   #3707
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Or........Banjercito was incapable of managing a credit card system. i.e., they couldn't keep up with the expiry dates on tvp's and then charge the associated cards.
they were capable but their system of taking an imprint only and then needing to charge on a few of those down the road lead them to attempt and charged expired cards. the new system requires a charge to the card and then a refund if you leave before 180 days. very logical to me. it was gringo's giving them cards they knew to be expired when they planned on not leaving properly that caused the problem.

started on june 11, 2011. i had to pay $300 for my car and $300 for my bike. also you can no longer trailer a bike in under the same car permit. car is in my wifes name and bike in mine. both names are on the titles.

currently working on fm3 and the bond $ will be transfered over to the fm3.
i guess i never leave mexico keeps my $600 forever.
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Old 07-04-2011, 09:59 PM   #3708
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Back to the deposit on vehicles ... I think this horse has been beaten pretty much to death, but they tried this same system a few years ago and it only lasted for about 2 weeks.

Stay tuned.
doubt it. huge signs are at all the crossing (been talking with other travelers). all the people at banjercito are well versed in the new procedures and explained it to me in english.
mexico charged my credit card...they have my $ and i have an incentive to follow the rules...when i leave they issue a refund. i you pash cash they issue a cash refund.
anyone traveling to mexico from here on out can count on it.
http://rollybrook.com/vehicle_permits.htm

caulderon recently signed some sweeping legislation that also affect immigration too. i know 2 people that found out they can become citizens much sooner. you do all the paperwork online first. mexico updated all their computer system i was told. they are requiring an apostille for our daughters birth cert.
all the expats are saying things in this area (bahia de banderas) are improving very quickly compared to the previous pace.
roads getting paved, new sewer lines, places getting cleaned up...
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:07 PM   #3709
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Word is out that in order to get a vehicle permit to travel in Mexico, now you have to put down a cash deposit in addition to the credit card charge of $30+? Anybody get a permiso within the last 2 weeks?
yes on june 15 and what i said above is correct.
it's the real deal.
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:12 PM   #3710
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your dates are wrong:

2007 and later
USD$ 400

2001 until 2006
USD$ 300

2000 and earlier
USD$ 200

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Goes by year of manufacture not by make/model/style
  • Vehicles manufactured before 1996 require a guarantee deposit of $200 USD
  • Vehicles manufactured between 1996 and 2000 require a guarantee deposit of $300 USD
  • Vehicles manufactured after 2001 require a guarantee deposit of $400 USD
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:16 PM   #3711
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Take a break and check this out:

Dude rides to Mexico on a hundred dollar bike

Places good chunks of our "blah blah blah" in the proper bin
Nice! Makes me want to get on the bike and to see what's around the next corner.
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:30 PM   #3712
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As is so often the case Mexico travel issues continue to generate more heat than light. Trice, Kiko, Bato and eakins are calling it right, IMO. No cash deposit required in Allende yesterday. Deposit charged to credit card per schedule Trice provided. Will report when charge is reversed, or if not.

Pdte. Calderon was on the news a moment ago to explain the change in the law. Seems both reasonable and justified to me. I have no problem with the new system.

As Trice said, we all still have a choice in the matter.
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:36 PM   #3713
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As is so often the case Mexico travel issues continue to generate more heat than light. Trice, Kiko, Bato and eakins are calling it right, IMO. No cash deposit required in Allende yesterday. Deposit charged to credit card per schedule Trice provided. Will report when charge is reversed, or if not.

Pdte. Calderon was on the news a moment ago to explain the change in the law. Seems both reasonable and justified to me. I have no problem with the new system.

As Trice said, we all still have a choice in the matter.
i was told that when you turn back in your import sticker, it's bar code scanned and that triggers an auto refund that night to your CC.
if you paid cash, you get exit paperwork that you take to banjercito for the cash.
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:40 PM   #3714
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is not that. Is because:

"mas vale pajaro en mano que ciento volando"
Claro que si!
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:45 PM   #3715
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i was told that when you turn back in your import sticker, it's bar code scanned and that triggers an auto refund that night to your CC.
if you paid cash, you get exit paperwork that you take to banjercito for the cash.
Same here. Fully expect Visa to report the charge reversal within a few biz days. Will confirm here.

In my view Mexico is not being greedy or short-sighted. Just smart.
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:58 PM   #3716
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also you can no longer trailer a bike in under the same car permit.

Mexico used to be very liberal on motorhomes and if you trailered something behind an RV that was OK. I wondr if t the new laws fuber those arrangements up.
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Old 07-05-2011, 04:18 PM   #3717
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Old 07-05-2011, 05:40 PM   #3718
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Mexico used to be very liberal on motorhomes and if you trailered something behind an RV that was OK. I wondr if t the new laws fuber those arrangements up.
good question.

i was asked if the bike is for offroad only and if it was no permit would be needed. of course that would probably work fine for me if i was just riding around town but i wanted to be fully legal to ride it anywhere in mexico and have the proper paperwork if i got stopped. i'm know an atv would not need any paperwork nor would a scooter.
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Old 07-05-2011, 05:41 PM   #3719
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We will be meeting to discuss these issues HERE this Friday/Saturday
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