Is Mexico Safe?

[SchizzMan]

Originally Posted by Dan Diego

American Deaths in Mexico are way down in 2011. I've counted only 15 or so, compared to 80 US citizens killed in Mexico in 2010.

Over 100,000 American teens and young adults are reported to travel into Mexico yearly.


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A critical aspect is missing here. There is no mention of the risk factors involved in these deaths. That is, which deaths involved innocents vs. people involved in the drug trade or law enforcement/gov't or just plain bad judgment.

US State Dept reports that true innocents comprise only a small percentage of American homicides in Mexico. Unless you are planning to go to Mexico to deal drugs or work as a gov't official or go looking for "hookers and blow" in Boy's Town at 3am, you're a lot safer than the unqualified stats indicate. Just like here in the US.

And just as with motorcycling itself, the risk factors for traveling Mexico are both knowable and manageable. The Ride Reports of Advriders provides strong confirmation of this with even a few young women riding solo and returning safely home having thoroughly enjoyed their Mexico adventures.

Still, it's a personal judgment call and, as Tricepilot stated, either decision is right for the individual.

[eakins]

Originally Posted by high dangler

You wont catch me in Mexico unless its a resort town and I fly in .
If i had dark skin and knew the language it might be different.

we then it's been settled high dangler has finalized the thread and he's the expert on mex.

i'd recommend Acapulco, especially some of the locals neighborhoods way in the back, you'd love it there.

[eakins]

Originally Posted by PirateJohn

I hear that it's disgusting hot down there.

Glad to hear that you had a good time!

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not in GTO. high 80s in the day and 60s at night. occasional rain storm in the eve. for 30 min. or so at a time. dry during the day. summer weather has been even better than Colo. high country, IMO.

you get the concept that the whole center of the country is @ high elevation, don't you??? i kinda thought you were some sort of MX expert? yeah the coast is hot, but the smart ones do NOT go to the coast this time of year...that's a winter thing.

...i'd say it disgusting hot where you live. I've seen the news.

[SchizzMan]

Originally Posted by eakins

?
not in GTO. high 80s in the day and 60s at night. occasional rain storm in the eve. for 30 min. or so at a time. dry during the day. summer weather has been even better than Colo. high country, IMO.

you get the concept that the whole center of the country is @ high elevation, don't you??? i kinda thought you were some sort of MX expert? yeah the coast is hot, but the smart ones do NOT go to the coast this time of year...that's a winter thing.

...i'd say it disgusting hot where you live. I've seen the news.

Wish I was in Guanajuato right now!

[Road Dust]

Originally Posted by PirateJohn

I hear that it's disgusting hot down there.

Glad to hear that you had a good time!

In certain parts of the country, during certain times of the year. Just like in the US.

Also got a little chilly at times up in the mountains. Mostly just good riding weather in the mountains when I was there.

[WeazyBuddha]

Originally Posted by Dan Diego

American Deaths in Mexico are way down in 2011. I've counted only 15 or so, Over 100,000 American teens and young adults are reported to travel into Mexico yearly.

So odds of an American being killed are about 15 hundredths of 1 percent?

[SchizzMan]

Originally Posted by WeazyBuddha

So odds of an American being killed are about 15 hundredths of 1 percent?

Sssshhhhhhhh!!

We don't want to get stuck in long lines of adventure riders applying for TVIPs now, do we??

[PirateJohn]

Originally Posted by eakins

?
not in GTO. high 80s in the day and 60s at night. occasional rain storm in the eve. for 30 min. or so at a time. dry during the day. summer weather has been even better than Colo. high country, IMO.

you get the concept that the whole center of the country is @ high elevation, don't you??? i kinda thought you were some sort of MX expert? yeah the coast is hot, but the smart ones do NOT go to the coast this time of year...that's a winter thing.

I was joking with him and my comments are a bit tempered by the fact that I am currently sitting in the desert 20 miles from Del Rio and, yeah ... all the border areas around here are disgustingly hot right now.

But yeah, I have also been in the mountains of the Copper Canyon and seen snow on the ground. Just not at this time of year.

[Arte]

Originally Posted by tricepilot

Disagree with your advice to Joe.

Many personal factors are involved with one's decison on travel. I'm sure when the time is right, Joe will be exploring. The fact that he's been transparent with his thoughts is refreshing. Posting here may be part of the process to get feedback on the decision process.

Each individual's conclusion is right for themselves.

The silliness starts when someone paints others with the brush of their own beliefs

POET BOB

[acejones]

Originally Posted by SchizzMan

Wish I was in Guanajuato right now!

Wish I was there also. I know a good place for Pollo Mole and cooold cerveza.

[Blind Warrior]

Someone may have posted this already, but here is Wikipedia's take of the homicide rates by country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._homicide_rate

So worrying about getting through Mexico to get to the 'safer' parts of Central America may be a little off the mark.

[Arte]

Originally Posted by PirateJohn

I was joking with him and my comments are a bit tempered by the fact that I am currently sitting in the desert 20 miles from Del Rio and, yeah ... all the border areas around here are disgustingly hot right now.

But yeah, I have also been in the mountains of the Copper Canyon and seen snow on the ground. Just not at this time of year.

YES! IS 99 F Degrees, so since this was a cooler temperature for us, we decided to ride to the DANGEROUS BORDER, the meeting of the waters of The Rio Bravo with Gulf of MEXICO




view to the USA side














So since my compadre Andres and myself felt kinda endangered, we decided to retrieve ourselves to safer shores

and found this....








we still felt unsafe and rode to more populated area and found this,,,










probably we will be thinking real serious our next ride, since it was unsafe.


Saludos !

Arte

[tricepilot]

Originally Posted by acejones

Wish I was there also. I know a good place for Pollo Mole and cooold cerveza.

Table for three, please

Pollo in a sublime mole negro. This one's in Oaxaca.

[tricepilot]

Originally Posted by Arte

[acejones]

Well, this really sucks ! Now I'm torn between the mariscos and the mole. Luckily they'll both go down well with cold cervezas