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12-06-2011, 09:43 AM   #5401
MikeMike

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by going south Hey Trice: thanks also for the link to Manuel A. Bravo's Pictures! Two of my favorite thing's old black & whites, & Mexico..... perfect....
Seen this one?
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 12-06-2011, 09:44 AM #5402 MikeMike Beastly Adventurer     Joined: Feb 2009 Oddometer: 4,150 Or this one? Attached Images
 12-06-2011, 09:48 AM #5404 MikeMike Beastly Adventurer     Joined: Feb 2009 Oddometer: 4,150 No? Time for a flashback. Attached Images
12-06-2011, 09:51 AM   #5405
larrylarry75
Aye Chihuahua

Joined: Feb 2007
Location: Southern OR coast
Oddometer: 320
Quote:
 Originally Posted by MikeMike Seen this one?
That's the Mexico I'd like to see. Damn that's beautiful, thanks for sharing.

LL75

 12-06-2011, 09:53 AM #5406 MikeMike Beastly Adventurer     Joined: Feb 2009 Oddometer: 4,150 I'll take you right to the spot where I snapped that one, Larry. And if it's cloudy, we'll just go back the next day.
12-06-2011, 10:03 AM   #5407
Sjoerd Bakker

Joined: Feb 2008
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by acejones As Tricepilot said; "Its a map". You do understand kilometers ? If not just take miles and multiply by .6. Thats close enough.
Er .. ah ,, Ace isn't it the other way around ? We'll just say this was a typo slip up
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If you have one MILE ( or una milla ) then multiply by 1.61 to get the equivalent in kilometers .
This is s o you can explain to a Mexican how far you rode in the u ess of ay .

If you have kilometers known and for some unfathomable reason feel the need to CONVERT it TO MILES
THEN you multiply by 0.6 to give you the mile equivalent

I do not now and will never have a GPS babysitting unit on my bike. I do all my travel with paper maps and remembering routes and landmarks from previous trips and I carry a compass as backup . I am not afraid to chat with a local to ask some questions and directions. To tell me "where I am" I only need to look at the ground under me and that is ... "here' I call this complex inexpensive system my SPS and it has always gotten me home. Even the maps are consulted sparingly and usually a s a bit of planning stimulus along the way
If you need a lot of English printed background information in the atlas then the Editores Quimera road atlas of Mexico is (was ?) one to look for. I haven't seen a new edition the last few years so maybe they quit making them , I don't know. But their road atlas is just as detailed as Roji and it also had nice topographical shading in the latest one I did buy .

12-06-2011, 10:14 AM   #5408
MikeMike

Joined: Feb 2009
Oddometer: 4,150
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Sjoerd Bakker I do not now and will never have a GPS babysitting unit on my bike. I do all my travel with paper maps and remembering routes and landmarks from previous trips and I carry a compass as backup . I am not afraid to chat with a local to ask some questions and directions. .
Old school rules!!

Who cares where you are, unless you are planning to stay you are not going to be there very long.

Whatever happened to folded up maps to use inside the Levis jacket to block the wind, a ski sweater, a Bell Magnum, Ray Bans, jeans, rodeo roper gloves, Red Wing slip on boots, a Zippo, some baling wire, chewing gum, a few pesos and traveling on \$10 bucks a day, etc...?

Oh, wait, that's your modern day KLR pilot. LOL!

 12-06-2011, 10:39 AM #5409 Bato Studly Adventurer   Joined: Nov 2009 Location: TEJAS Oddometer: 925 B&W video
12-06-2011, 10:46 AM   #5410
SkizzMan
There, that's it

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Location: Austin, Tx.
Oddometer: 8,806
Quote:
 Originally Posted by larrylarry75 Kilometers...? WTF are those?
A Mexican kilometer is roughly equivalent to a mile here. Effort-wise, I mean.
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12-06-2011, 10:51 AM   #5411
Bato

Joined: Nov 2009
Location: TEJAS
Oddometer: 925
Quote:
 Originally Posted by SchizzMan A Mexican kilometer is roughly equivalent to a mile here. Effort-wise, I mean.
off course !

MORE DURANGO ...

The kid with beautiful background at a checkpoint notice the sniper hiding behind the rocks on the hill

Bato screwed with this post 12-06-2011 at 11:05 AM

12-06-2011, 11:20 AM   #5412
larrylarry75
Aye Chihuahua

Joined: Feb 2007
Location: Southern OR coast
Oddometer: 320
Quote:
 Originally Posted by MikeMike I'll take you right to the spot where I snapped that one, Larry. And if it's cloudy, we'll just go back the next day.
I'd like that, thanks.
LL75

12-06-2011, 11:44 AM   #5413
eakins
Butler Maps

Joined: May 2002
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by tricepilot PS I bought a ton of Butler maps...tell me I'm not the first to propose a Mexico version
nope. several have. there is just a back log of several more western states, ozark, W. NC and all the BDR maps http://www.backcountrydiscoveryroutes.com/blog/ that must come out. not that i won't happen but way to many other projects in the works already.

i'm kinda thinking a Baja BDR map might be the first mex. endeavor, that way the project can go from Cabo to Canada (after OR & Cali are done too). before that a COBDR http://www.cobdr.com/ is happening this summer and Rob W. is pre-riding some of the AZBDR this winter.

as for mex, i think a regional west coast & mountain, say san blas east and south and as far south as 134 to zihua would offer up a ton of riding.
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12-06-2011, 11:58 AM   #5414
eakins
Butler Maps

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by MikeMike Guia Roji has some errors, use with caution if you are heading off the cuotas and usual routes. If Eakins comes over I want to keep him busy here for a little while checking out some areas.

i haven't found any of the mexican maps to strive for great accuracy. the only one i do not own yet is E32 gps, but have heard very good things about it. Printed Roji and Nat Geo http://www.amazon.com/National-Geogr.../dp/1566955270 are ok . I have Bicimaps and have found many errors. I've emailed those guys on my results and for awhile they responded that would fix in the next addition, but now they just ignore me. I'm guessing i'm creating to much work for them and i guess good enough is ok. It is what it is. I hand draw alot of google earth tracks to add needed detail to my GPS.
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12-06-2011, 12:39 PM   #5415
larrylarry75
Aye Chihuahua

Joined: Feb 2007
Location: Southern OR coast
Oddometer: 320
Quote:
 Originally Posted by SchizzMan A Mexican kilometer is roughly equivalent to a mile here. Effort-wise, I mean.

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