Is Mexico Safe? - Page 390

tricepilot · 12-25-2011, 06:47 AM

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Merry Christmas, everyone!

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jimmex · 12-25-2011, 07:34 AM

^^ Igualmente! Looking forward to more good times in '12. Jim

Bato · 12-25-2011, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tricepilot

Still dialing in precisley where both attacks occured

Con rumbo a Tantoyuca...
Municipio El Higo

MikeMike · 12-25-2011, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SchizzMan

Merry Christmas, everyone!

You wanna say that to my face...LOL!
Get on down here in the New Year! Abrazos para todos!

MikeMike · 12-25-2011, 09:07 AM

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jimmex · 12-25-2011, 10:23 AM

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Reposado1800 · 12-25-2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeMike

That took place right up near the Tamaulipas state line, in the Huasteca Alta region.
The story is quite tragic, just some innocent people trying to spend some time with their families at Christmas.

Basically, EL Higo is a glorified speed bump on the road to Huehutla. Probably the bus driver was being forced to stop by Zeta banditos and didn't comply and the idiots decided to shoot up the bus.

For anybody who hasn't figured it out yet, ride during the day. Stick close to other traffic going in your direction and keep your eyes open. The Zetas ARE stealing motorcycles on occasion as a distant relative of mine had his ripped off while riding in Monterrey. He is Mexican. I would recommend carrying about $200 in cash just in case something like this would happen. Better to part with $200 than have a nice bike ripped off by zetas and start walking home. JMHO.

PirateJohn · 12-25-2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tricepilot

For back-up insurance, you can buy internationaly traded Cabrón Credits

Which are good for portions of roasted young goat at any place that recognizes the Cabrón Credits

See, that's my recipe for survival en Mexico when you speak shitty Spanish. Keep smiling and keep cruising.

PirateJohn · 12-25-2011, 12:42 PM

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I would recommend carrying about $200 in cash just in case something like this would happen. Better to part with $200 than have a nice bike ripped off by zetas and start walking home. JMHO.

Interesting. I would be worried that the bad guys would take both the bike AND the cash, although that's kind of a moot point since I stash my cash on my bike.

If in Monterrey keep your money in your motel room and offer to trade the money for the bike down at the Centro in the middle of the day?

This, of course, is one of those reasons why I usually rode the older of my two GS's in Mexico. I would have hated to lose it, but it really wasn't worth losing my life over.

PirateJohn · 12-25-2011, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tricepilot

There is a huge difference between an isolated attack on a bus and fear of attacks on moto travelers.

The analogy would be "a mall shooting in St. Paul" and an aversion to riding a motorcycle in Minnesota.

I hadn't heard of this tale, but if the lady and her children were all killed and no (or few) other passengers were killed then there is more to the story here. Someone smarted off to the bandits, perhaps? Or they were targeted.

tricepilot · 12-25-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PirateJohn

I would be worried that the bad guys would take both the bike AND the cash,

If the bad guy started out wanting your bike, and you thought you could buy him off for "$200", that is exactly what would happen.

A thief would have to be a pretty dim thug to pass up that combo

tricepilot · 12-25-2011, 01:10 PM

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There is more to the story here...... Or they were targeted.

There is definitely something more to the story than as printed,

PirateJohn · 12-25-2011, 01:15 PM

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There is definitely something more to the story than as printed,

There was some poor kid that was a student at the university in McAllen who was pulled off of a bus and shot. I have always thought that he was personally targeted for some reason, or that he smarted off to the bandits.

Anyway, not to 100% excuse this nonsense. Many of us were shocked to find that 2 or 3 entire busloads of folks were killed in San Fernando. But that has been almost a year ago, and an isolated incident.

And as has been pointed out, not only does this not apply to motorcycle tourists, but the odds of a tourist being in the wrong place at the wrong time is pretty durned low.

MikeMike · 12-25-2011, 01:52 PM

The bad guys shot up two buses they had already stopped, this resulted in the civilian deaths, when the third bus pulled up, the driver step down off the bus to see why the others had stopped and he was shot.

The military responded when they had heard about a grenade attack in a town, they intercepted the bad guys and killed them all. The next day, 10 decapitated bodies appeared near Tampico Alto right up near the Veracruz and Tamaulipas state line. Those are the events.

As far as Zetas stealing motorcycles, I have not heard of one case of this. I don't doubt a bike was stolen but how did someone know it was a Zeta?

tricepilot · 12-25-2011, 02:09 PM

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The next day, 10 decapitated bodies appeared near Tampico Alto right up near the Veracruz and Tamaulipas state line.

Bodies of the bad guys or something else?

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jimmex Guero from SanAngelo Joined: Jan 2003 Location: West Texas Oddometer: 1,432	^^ Igualmente! Looking forward to more good times in '12. Jim

12-25-2011, 01:52 PM	#5849
MikeMike Beastly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2009 Location: South east Mexico Oddometer: 2,401	The bad guys shot up two buses they had already stopped, this resulted in the civilian deaths, when the third bus pulled up, the driver step down off the bus to see why the others had stopped and he was shot. The military responded when they had heard about a grenade attack in a town, they intercepted the bad guys and killed them all. The next day, 10 decapitated bodies appeared near Tampico Alto right up near the Veracruz and Tamaulipas state line. Those are the events. As far as Zetas stealing motorcycles, I have not heard of one case of this. I don't doubt a bike was stolen but how did someone know it was a Zeta?