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Old 02-01-2012, 07:08 AM   #6346
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Taking the boat out on the lake shortly, then laming up to head to Veracruz, stopping at Salto Eyiplantla. Will stay at Hotel Emporio.

Meet at 7 at the hotel for a cerveza?

Heading for the highlands tomorrow early.
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Old 02-01-2012, 07:24 AM   #6347
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Trice, I'll be working tonight at 7pm for sure. However, why not an early breakfast meet up at the Hotel tomorrow?
I will need to leave by 8:15am for work, but I usually get up at 5am and can meet you for breakfast at 7am or so if you like at the hotel.
What "highlands" are you aiming for? Naolinco via "Arte and Andres' Greenland" La Esperanza or Perote and the challenge of the summit ride?
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:51 AM   #6348
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However, why not an early breakfast meet up at the Hotel tomorrow?
I will need to leave by 8:15am for work, but I usually get up at 5am and can meet you for breakfast at 7am or so if you like at the hotel.
Hotel Emporio, 7 am
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Old 02-01-2012, 10:57 AM   #6349
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Hecho Trice, nos vemos a las 7am en what I think is called the Condimento Restaurant. It'll be the only one open for breakfast unless one of the nearby Gran Cafe La Parroquia's is open at 7am, usually they open later.
A todos modos I'll be there manana at 7am looking for you. I am going to see if Frank can come along, he met Jimmex when we went for the ride last Sunday. Frank rides a GS1200 like you guys. See you for breakfast.
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:18 AM   #6350
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Packed up the GSs to say goodby to Guatemala, exited at El Cebo, the newish northwest corner of Guatemala, nearest to Palenque.
Well, I'm looking forward to your report of this crossing!
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Old 02-01-2012, 02:13 PM   #6351
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Thumbs down no

answer to the original question... NO! If it was why would I want to go?

Love riding in Mexico!
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Old 02-01-2012, 05:52 PM   #6352
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Is it correct that if you pay in US cash, US cash will be given back to you when you leave? But if you pay with a credit card, you receive a lesser amount when you leave?
When you pay in US cash for the security deposit they will pay back the value of the deposit in US cash ,exactly.
If you pay in credit card you must consider if the amount you paid is a TOTAL also including payment for the TVIP and tourist card PLUS your security deposit. Actual TVIP payment and Tourist Card Payments are non-refundable. In most cases this confusion is eliminated because they will make separate cc debits for each item , giving you individual receipts for each charge. Save all your cc receipts ,here at the border an d always.
The exact US dollar value of the security deposit will be returned to your credit card account when you cancel your TVIP and hand back the sticker and document. GET the receipts for the re- deposit...
Now remember that since these are cc transactions and the money is switched from US to Mex peso and then a number of days or weeks later they are converted back the other way there may be fluctuations in the exchange rate . these cannot be helped and are no fault of the Mexicans. You are not being ripped off. In fact as exchange rates go either way you may wind up getting back a few cents more than you paid.

As stated earlier if leaving the south Mexico border with the intent of returning to Mexico before the TVIP expires they now will permit you to retain the TVIP during your CA visit. You need to cancel it only when you leave Mexico for the USA for the final time. This means that your sercurity deposit remains in effect also and you are spared the trouble of cancellation and refunds and then having to get that stuff all over again for the return leg .
And remember YOU are responsible to see that it does get cancelled. Nobody at the Mex USA border is going to come running out at any office to ask you to hand in the paperwork

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Old 02-01-2012, 06:00 PM   #6353
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TVIP refund

4 years ago a bunch of us went to Copper Canyon. I can't remember if I got my deposit back or not. i.e. I can't remember(old age) if I cancelled my TVIP and handed back the sticker and document. Will this be a problem if I try to go into Mexico again this spring??? Thanks in advance

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When you pay in US cash for the security deposit they will pay back the value of the deposit in US cash ,exactly.
If you pay in credit card you must consider if the amount you paid is a TOTAL also including payment for the TVIP and tourist card PLUS your security deposit. Actual TVIP payment and Tourist Card Payments are non-refundable. In most cases this confusion is eliminated because they will make separate cc debits for each item , giving you individual receipts for each charge. Save all your cc receipts ,here at the border an d always.
The US dollar value of the security deposit will be returned to your credit card account when you cancel your TVIP and hand back the sticker and document. GET the receipts for the re- deposit..

As stated earlier if leaving the south Mexico border with the intent of returning to Mexico before the TVIP expires they now will permit you to retain the TVIP during your CA visit. You need to cancel it only when you leave Mexico for the USA for the final time. This means that your sercurity deposit remains in effect also and you are spared the trouble of cancellation and refunds and then having to get that stuff all over again for the return leg .
And remember YOU are responsible to see that it does get cancelled. Nobody at the Mex USA border is going to come running out at any office to ask you to hand in the paperwork
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:04 PM   #6354
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Leaving Mexico kept the TVIP but had to surrender the tourist card to get the exit stamp the Guatemalan side wanted to see.

Coming back at El Ceibo (on a Monday!) simply cancelled the Guatemala bike permit and got a new Mexico tourist card ****BUT***** no corresponding Banjercito receipt. Banjercito at El Ceibo is closed on Mondays.

I will expand upon the ramifications of this in my RR.
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:30 PM   #6355
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got a new Mexico tourist card ****BUT***** no corresponding Banjercito receipt.
This has happened to me and I just stopped at a Bank a couple of days later and paid for it. Not sure what bank it was but it did take 2 banks before they would take the payment. Got a reciept and all was well, at least I think all was well!!
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:01 AM   #6356
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I had a hot dog for dinner last night y uno cerveza



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Old 02-02-2012, 03:48 AM   #6357
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Judging by the photo it looks like you've got a bad case of rusty nuts, too.
There is an old traditional cure for that in Mexico.
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Old 02-02-2012, 04:00 AM   #6358
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Langosta the size of hogie buns at La Mera Madre, on the malecón, Veracruz.
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Old 02-02-2012, 04:05 AM   #6359
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Next to the harbor at the Hotel Emporio
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Old 02-02-2012, 04:19 AM   #6360
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Next to the harbor at the Hotel Emporio

Looks like a great trip... wish I coulda went....

Make sure you do a ride report!
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