Is Mexico Safe?

[SchizzMan]

Originally Posted by ChangoGS

Until the mountain pass with lil roadside park and Ossa statue !!

We carved that up pretty good, too!

[SchizzMan]

Trice Skyping Mrs. Trice and daughter from Hotel Huisache in Saltillo.

Been good so far. As always.

NB: if you can't get to the border to close a TVIP (as was my case) Banjercito will not refund the deposit money. Good news is you can get a new TVIP right away.

[tricepilot]

Originally Posted by ChangoGS

Until the mountain pass with lil roadside park and Ossa statue !!

I saw that spot going 90 and said $#!@

[SchizzMan]

Cervezas in Saltillo with Trice & Bob C

[MikeMike]

I spy a Negra Modelo or Bohemia with my little eye....

[McFoil]

Hey Tricepilot, we made Matehuala last night. Si on the "muy tranquilomuy tranquilo". No check points, military or other. Great ride. Headed for Queretaro this morning. Ride safe.

[mark883]

You guys have fun down there....

and be careful- I've heard Mexico is dangerous.



Meanwhile, I get to go to Bangor Maine!





Also, Hi there Carl! Glad to see you're out and about.

[PirateJohn]

The rest of us aren't jealous. No sir. Not at all.

[dwj - Donnie]

Originally Posted by WeazyBuddha

Almost universally the rich in Mexico see the less fortunate as another species, one that is below them and not to be bothered with, alive only to do their bidding. Mexico will never fully rise above its poverty until the rich realize that it is in everyone's best interest, including theirs, to eliminate it.

The second point is also a good one. There is no romance in poverty when you are in it. Yes, there are many moments of happiness proving that money is not a requirement for happiness. However, there is nothing romantic about going without healthcare and feeling hungry. There is no romance in having your kid cough up blood and having nothing but herbs and a prayer to offer.

I am steeped in the reality and am truly pained by my birth country's suffering. As Porfirio Diaz is credited with saying, poor Mexico so far from God and so close to the U.S.

There is cause for optimism though, Mexico's middle class is growing and the sophistication of its business operations can be impressive. The Puente Buluarte being featured here is another point of evidence of advancements being made.

Viva Mexico.

Very well said!

Each level seems to look down on the next level in that manner. My first job in Mexico was as Production Manager in a Manufacturing plant. Getting first line supervision to look at their employees in a respectable manner was job one! We saw having all employees as partners and asking for their opinions and suggestions crucial to success. This was not a generally accepted manging method in Mexico. BTW, it took a while, but we were fairly successful in achieving this objective, but it took a while and did not come easy.

Of course the next level up, looked at the first line supervisors the same way as they looked at the next level down. And the next level up looked at all of those below them in the same manner.

When I go to Mexico and talk of spending time with the "real" Mexicans, it is these first two or three levels I am talking about. During my time in Mexico, inflation had wiped out the middle class, so most every one fit into the lower levels. It is great to see the middle-class is staging a come back!

[dwj - Donnie]

Originally Posted by tricepilot

Get at least Mexico liability insurance, from mexadventure.com or bajabound.com or something like it.

I doubt you'll be able to insure your camera and computer. I could be wrong.

You'll need a TVIP, and you can get that at the aduana at Nuevo Laredo, but I go a bit west of Laredo, and cross at
the Colombia bridge. Hardly any traffic there.

You can use your Texas registration for the TVIP, you'll need your passport for the tourist card.

Have fun. Good project. Go find what happened to Old John.

Can you explain what is where at this crossing. I will be entering Mexico ate February or early March and am thinking about entering at this location.

I will be headed to MX200 through or around Guadalajara. From there I will be headed to Guatemala. Any suggestions about routes and thing too see would be appreciated appreciated. I don't ride Quota Roads because I like the scenery of the Free Roads, speed bumps and all.

[dwj - Donnie]

[QUOTE=ChangoGS;17740525]

Originally Posted by mexipike

" I'm just going to jump on here again, since I kind of lost track on my last post. I'm headed down to Mexico City on my GS, saturday. Probably just going to take 57 "

Hi, Hwy 57 starts on the Texas side right off I-35 and prceeds west to Eagle Pass and turns into Mexico 57 @ Piedras Negras. One can ride about 35 miles into Mexico to Allende Coah. and get the permit at the Allende Aduana normally quickly and easily. As far as Liability Mexican Ins.There's supposed to be a Sanborn agency @ I-35 South and Military in San Antonio in the Chase bank Bldng. Also, in normal business hours insurance can be found in Eagle Pass Tx. If u take 57 via Allende etc. theres a Autopista "pay" road as soon as you
leave the aduana to your left. Basically check your maps ,GPS,scale ,ruler etc. and see where u want to cross at and whats best for you. because you will end up on 57 anyway just a few miles east of Saltillo even if u cross at Laredo. Oh , Mexican Aduanas/officials on Guate border sometimes handle things differently than up on Texas border. Example : Multiple Re-Entries on visa and vehicle permit. Usaully when exiting Mexico into Guatemala ask or you might be asked by Mexican Aduana how far south u are going and for how long. They might let u keep your Mexico paperwork for your return.
Goood Luck, Have a nice trip. Disclaimer: Not advice etc. just my experiences.

I am especially interested in using the same Tourist Visa and Temporary Vehicle Importation in Mexico, as well as Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, and Costa Rica. Anybody with actual experience doing this. It potentially eliminates a lot of hassles. I will be traveling as far as Panama and returning to the states in a six to eight weeks.

[dwj - Donnie]

Originally Posted by kennyanc

My last ride to MX was in October of 2008. Shortly after I got home we found out my wife's cancer had returned. The next couple of years I had no desire to leave home. Connie died in June of 2010 and it has really taken some adjusting. We were together for nearly 30 years

I have been wanting to get back to Old Mexico and it looks like the time has finally come. I am heading south somewhere around the first of Feb and will be gone for about a month. I am making a beeline to Oaxaca, thanks in no small part to Tricepilot's Oaxaca RR, where I plan to settle in for a few weeks. Gonna take some Spanish lessons, see the area and sample some of that delicious Mole. May head over to Pto. Escondido or somewhere on the pacific for a long weekend in the middle.

Hope to run into some of you on the road.

Very sorry for your loss! I truly understand how you feel. My wife died June 2011. We were married almost 39 years. I still get emotional, even doing such things as typing this to you. Be strong and have a great time in Mexico! I will be through there in another six weeks or so.

[Aanarchy]

Originally Posted by SchizzMan

Cervezas in Saltillo with Trice & Bob C

I hate you. All of you.

If I had any balls I'd get divorced (again), quit my job and head south

[SchizzMan]

Originally Posted by MikeMike

I spy a Negra Modelo or Bohemia with my little eye....

El Indio.

Negra Modelo tonight.

[SchizzMan]

Originally Posted by Aanarchy

I hate you. All of you.

If I had any balls I'd get divorced (again), quit my job and head south

That's funny. The folks down here seem to just love us. ;)