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Old 05-07-2012, 05:41 AM   #7876
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What are we going to do?
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Old 05-07-2012, 05:54 AM   #7877
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Maybe. But she comes from a long line of people here who support the PRI who ruined Mexico. Her father was the mayor Coatzacoalcos some years ago. I figure the manzana doesn't fall far from the arbol. But it is damn fine to look at, isn't it? LOL!
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:01 AM   #7878
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I figure the manzana doesn't fall far from the arbol.
I was thinking more appropriate fruit but I get your point
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Old 05-07-2012, 08:07 AM   #7879
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Yes, I've read that the hotels in Mexico don't build balcony railings to US standards. HEY! Guess what? That's because the hotel is GASP ..... in Mexico.
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Old 05-07-2012, 08:26 AM   #7880
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Why is Mexico seemingly incapable of laying out a smooth surface on a bridge? I remember the Pharr bridge was like this, smooth as butter on the US side until you hit the halfway mark and then it was like riding a pogo stick.
It's amazing but so true. There is an overpass on the toll road around zacatecas on the way from Fresnillo/Durango to Aguascalientes that is the worst bridge ever.
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Old 05-07-2012, 08:44 AM   #7881
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I Google Earthed El Cofre de Perote. That is one big volcano!
Yeah, it is. And it is a real pain in los pompis on the way up and a pain in the huevos on the way down.
I think you would have to be a British politician to ride it on a regular basis. LOL!

You are right, the service in Mexico is improving and there is a news program on the tv that highlights bad service with videos sent in by people. Most of the poor service, in my experience, is lack of proper training on the part of owners (here's your uniform, you are now a server get out there and make me some money) or apathy with a low wage scale and too many friends on facebook and free wi-fi in the hotel/restaurant/store/cafe etc...

SR, if (ok, when?) you come over, we can ride that, then take the road that leads from it to Pico de Orizaba and then to the river basin of the Papoloapan etc... If you get two clear days, you'll fill a few memory cards with video and photos.
It's best to start from the Los Humeros geo-thermal zone where you will find a good sized stash of what I guess is geological porn! LOL!
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:41 AM   #7882
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Get to know Mexico.

http://nidodemave.webcindario.com/mexico.html

Interactive map, just keep the popup blocker on. Good info on every state and el distrito.
Be careful with that link. When I clicked on it I wound up with something called the Ukash virus which, as far as I can tell has pretty well taken over my computer. Bypasses Mcafee. Looks like a bitch to get rid of.

Not certain it came from this site but it happened shortly after I opened it.

Fortunately have another computer
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:54 AM   #7883
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Be careful with that link. When I clicked on it I wound up with something called the Ukash virus which, as far as I can tell has pretty well taken over my computer. Bypasses Mcafee. Looks like a bitch to get rid of.

Not certain it came from this site but it happened shortly after I opened it.

Fortunately have another computer
Rex, interesting. I had no troubles but don't use McAfee. I nuked the thread. My sincere apologies if it created any difficulty for you, it certainly wasn't meant for that. I had a pop up blocker on and ignored everything but the map.
Sometimes these things have some crap attached.
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:00 AM   #7884
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Rex, interesting. I had no troubles but don't use McAfee. I nuked the thread. My sincere apologies if it created any difficulty for you, it certainly wasn't meant for that. I had a pop up blocker on and ignored everything but the map.
Sometimes these things have some crap attached.
No problem Mike - it's not like you would do this on purpose. And, like I said I'm not certain this came from the site in your post - just came up at the same time.
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:14 AM   #7885
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If it is still there and you can't get rid of it, let me know, I have a friend who is a very good computer tech.
I got that from my brother in law and neither of us has had any trouble.
Mexico might be safe but who knows about the links!!
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:22 AM   #7886
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:25 AM   #7887
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:28 AM   #7888
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Old 05-07-2012, 01:56 PM   #7889
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Having not much else to do here, I went against your advice and spent some time reading.

I've come away with a couple of observations.

1. A lot of these people could have died from the same thing anywhere in the world.

It is not Mexico's fault that you had a heart attack while swimming in the hotel pool / slipped on wet tile from the shower you just took / drank too much, passed out and smacked your head / got bit by a shark while surfing.

2. The lack of personal responsibility displayed is astounding.

It is not Mexico's fault that you decided to go swimming in the OCEAN and got caught in a rip tide. (blame the moon perhaps?)

Stop relying on everyone else to protect you.

3. Gravity always wins.

Look. It's a simple rule. If you are more than 3 feet above the ground, stay away from ledges. This is especially true if you have been drinking. Yes, I've read that the hotels in Mexico don't build balcony railings to US standards. HEY! Guess what? That's because the hotel is GASP ..... in Mexico.

4. Yes, some loss of life might have been caused by poor maintenance, lack of staff training, etc. But this goes back to #1....

The loss of human life is always sad, but personally, I think a lot of these people would still be alive if they had simply used common sense and/or been more aware of their surroundings and their own abilities.NV

I visited that site too and found the same thing. Out of curiosity, I googled "balcony fatalities, and got hits from around the world, many of which mentioned alcohol consumption as a component of the accident. But hey, why focus on alcohol impairment when we can blame the building codes of less developed nations, eh? The only thing I found useful, which I hadn't seen before was this link to the US gumint stats on non-natural US deaths abroad. I was mostly interested in the homicide statistics here in Mexico. It's hard to interpret the stats without the underlying data, ( were there indications of drug cartel involvement, what are the user-day rates of the various Mexican states by US citizens, etc.). One thing that stood out is that your "chances" of being murdered in Mexico are significantly higher in Baja, (35% of US citizens murdered in Mexico in 2011), Chihuahua, (18% of US citizens murdered in Mexico in 2011), and Jalisco, (11% of US citizens murdered in Mexico in 2011). Baja seems like the most obvious state whose murder rate of US citizens is largely influenced by the number of Americans vacationing there. As I said, the stats are not very useful without knowing more about the specifics, but interesting nonetheless.
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Old 05-07-2012, 01:59 PM   #7890
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Fine, I'll be the Cantinero! But you have to be the Court Gester! .
Scary. Wonder what he could gestate into if we appointed him? ;)
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