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Old 04-06-2010, 07:49 AM   #796
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Just remember the greatest fear is from within. I travel to 57 countries because of work. There is no other country in the world than the U.S. where fear is so apparent. It's big business. The government wants us to have fear, the media loves a good explosion then they can make a news story our of something that probably was not worth reporting about.

If you should have fear, worry about all crazy people in our own country that text while driving. Just two weeks ago, 11 bikers were hit in Phoenix by a truck that didn't stop. I don't know all the facts about that accident but I see people every day in traffic texting. It's just as bad as drunk driving.

Travelling internationally you biggest safety is your own attitude. Treat people with respect and you will be safe.

I think there is a lot of truth to what you are saying.

I might add that although I check the Mission newspaper daily to see what's going on, there is no doubt in my mind that they sensationalize things a bit because it sells the newspapers. I see that every day on my commute to work; the bigger the headline about something bloody, the more newspapers the street corner vendors sell. And down here everyone has a relative or three across the border so they are concerned and want to stay informed.

But as a practical matter we need to be realistic. While the Centro in Reynosa and main street in Progreso were vibrant after dark last year, now people are getting off the streets when the sun goes down.

Very sad, but I do feel that there is a good possibility that this will pass in a matter of a few weeks.
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:58 AM   #797
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Times come and go and you will have regions that are pretty turbulent. I was in Cali Colombia in 1994 and travelled into the next valley for a full day ride. Just a few years ago it would have been crazy for me to do so. FARC was controlling the next valley. Now I hear things are getting much better again.

The border towns in Mexico have always been somewhat sketchy and clearly there are areas that are not safe. So it is also in Atlanta, D.C. New York. End January I was in Rio de Janeiro, out on the streets at 3 am. Felt totally safe, saw lots of people. It's when you are in the abandoned street and ally that you are at risk.

Saw on the news a sick dude tried to kidnap a kid at a church in Montgomery AL this week-end. If you feed on the news you get scared and you stop living.
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Old 04-06-2010, 09:39 AM   #798
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you can ask JD or Eduardo (if you can find his thread here) but staying in the Centro seems to work pretty well. You are already in Mexico when you wake up, the rooms are something like $29, the bikes are perfectly secure, etc. And you are 8 blocks or so from where you get your permits





The road that goes more or less due south from Reynosa to the Pemex-anchored crossroads near the town of General Francisco Villa.

I'm at my office now and don't have a decent map handy, but if you had seen me looking for my reading classes as I was typing this morning you'd understand that misreading the map was a real possibility.
My recommendation is to cross over and spend the night at the Savoy,
starting the ride into the interior from there. It's easy getting the TVIP
online and the FMT at the Aduana in Reynosa before checking into the
Savoy. Hit the sack knowing you're ready to go the next morning. Nothing
left to do but get up, check the bikes and go. PJ can show you the route.

Also recommend the traditional breakfast at Cafe Paris on the zocalo.
It will take you many miles into Mexico.
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Old 04-06-2010, 09:49 AM   #799
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Just remember the greatest fear is from within. I travel to 57 countries because of work. There is no other country in the world than the U.S. where fear is so apparent. It's big business. The government wants us to have fear, the media loves a good explosion then they can make a news story our of something that probably was not worth reporting about.

If you should have fear, worry about all crazy people in our own country that text while driving. Just two weeks ago, 11 bikers were hit in Phoenix by a truck that didn't stop. I don't know all the facts about that accident but I see people every day in traffic texting. It's just as bad as drunk driving.

Travelling internationally you biggest safety is your own attitude. Treat people with respect and you will be safe.
Well said! "Respect" in Mexico (and around the world) can be summed up
as showing greater regard for the people you're dealing with than for the
transaction itself. Smile and greet the other person before making your
request and then close with something personal like "muchas gracias" and/or
"ten buen dia" again with a smile and a nod. Demonstrate a willingness to
be patient - they've seen plenty of impatient gringos and have come to
expect it. Do these things and you'll discover the greatest aspect of travel in
Mexico - her people!
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Old 04-06-2010, 05:06 PM   #800
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The Anzalduas crossing puts you right there on Rt. 87. You miss most of the town of Reynosa.

I agree with Pilot815; the choice of crossings is basically what time you get here. Another data point to consider is that they close the Anzalduas Bridge around 10PM or so.
here is a map, where exactly connects the Anzalduas Int'l Bridge. (Orange dotted Line US Side, Red dotted line MEX side)

(Note that by-passes the Chilaquiles time at my house)

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Old 04-06-2010, 07:23 PM   #801
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My recommendation is to cross over and spend the night at the Savoy,
starting the ride into the interior from there. It's easy getting the TVIP
online and the FMT at the Aduana in Reynosa before checking into the
Savoy. Hit the sack knowing you're ready to go the next morning. Nothing
left to do but get up, check the bikes and go. PJ can show you the route.

Also recommend the traditional breakfast at Cafe Paris on the zocalo.
It will take you many miles into Mexico.
So where is the Savoy in Reynosa? John was refering us to a Savoy in McAllen.
Remember, none of us are going to know what your suggestions mean without either GPS coords or good idiot proof directions.
I didn't think you could cross, get a room, then do your paperwork in that order?

Thanks for all the help. Hope we meet at least one of you FF's down there.
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:42 PM   #802
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You don't need to get your paperwork until you are ready to head south/west out of town. There isn't any paperwork required in the border zone.
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:51 PM   #803
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You don't need to get your paperwork until you are ready to head south/west out of town. There isn't any paperwork required in the border zone.
Yea,OK ... Thanks for that.
Now the question is: I thought the idea was to get outa the border area ASAP?
Now we're spending the night?
So where is that Savoy in Reynosa?

I know, I'm all questions.
Thanks for the assist.
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:02 PM   #804
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Juarez No. 860 Nte.

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http://hotels-mexico-en.globalhoteli...s/75686en.html
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:06 PM   #805
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So where is the Savoy in Reynosa? John was refering us to a Savoy in McAllen.
Remember, none of us are going to know what your suggestions mean without either GPS coords or good idiot proof directions.
I didn't think you could cross, get a room, then do your paperwork in that order?

Thanks for all the help. Hope we meet at least one of you FF's down there.
Well, I guess there's always gonna be a little confusion.

Pirate John is recommending you stay at the Savoy in Reynosa, just off the
zocalo. You have 72 hours from the time you cross until you complete your
paperwork as long as you stay inside the Tourist Zone (~25 mile strip).

It's a simple matter of passing through the Aduana on the way to the Savoy
or checking out of the Savoy the next day and returning to the Aduana to
get your papers. Very easy either way. Just do what makes sense given
your schedule. PJ can show you the routing - we had no problem following
his directions. Super simple.

If the experience of staying the night in Reynosa isn't worth it to you then
I recommend you find a cheap motel in Mission and take the Anzalduas
bridge the next morning. As Arte posted just take Hwy 83 to Bryan St., south
on Bryan to Anzalduas bridge which will take you to the new Aduana and on
to Mx40 Monterrey. If Reynosa "goes loud" it's what I'd do.

I'll be in Cd. Victoria April 26th, Pachuca the 27th, Cholula (near Puebla)
through the 30th, then Mexico City one night, Bernal 2 nights and returning
to Tejas through Saltillo. Let me know if we'll be crossing paths.

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Old 04-06-2010, 08:16 PM   #806
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Juarez No. 860 Nte.

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http://hotels-mexico-en.globalhoteli...s/75686en.html
Just a few blocks SW from the Int'l. Bridge and Aduana and immediately
south of the zocalo (central plaza). Juarez St., BTW, will take you south
a few blocks, cross the canal then turn right and follow signs to MX40
Monterrey. Just that easy. The zocalo is nice enough with some restaurants, pavilian, etc.

See post #549, this thread, for recent pictures of El Centro, Reynosa.
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:24 PM   #807
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I USED TO LIVE IN MEXICO...NOW I JUST DREAM OF SOME DAY RETURNING....



PROSPECTIVE!!! AIN'T THAT A BITCH!


WHO WANTS TO PLAN A TRIP TO MEX WITH ME?

I USED TO LIVE 30 MINUTES FROM THIS PLACE, AIN'T THAT A BITCH?
http://www.paraisocaxcan.com.mx/
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I USED TO LIVE IN MEXICO...NOW I JUST DREAM OF SOME DAY RETURNING....

I USED TO LIVE 30 MINUTES FROM THIS PLACE, AIN'T THAT A BITCH?
http://www.paraisocaxcan.com.mx/

Another Paisano Zacatecano!!!

Some years ago, I rode my Honda CBR 600 F4 from Reynosa to Paraiso Caxcan (via Queretaro - Irapuato - Aguascalientes - Zacatecas ). in some less than two days.

my back was killing me when got there, but after get into the hell hot waters, had a cold Corona, everything else did not matter.
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:43 PM   #809
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This is starting to sound like an oil thread: "I've never had a problem with brand X, therefore it's the best oil made."

Just substitute "Mexico" and "safe" and there it is.

The fact that overrides pretty much everything for me is the large numbers of upper middle class Mexicans who are moving their families to the U.S. right now. San Antonio is seeing quite a bit of this.

They're leaving because of their fear of kidnapping.

Couple that with a compromised law enforcement agencies, and I don't think Mexico's safe.

I predict that there will be tourists kidnapped in the not too distant future. I hope it's no one from Adventure Rider.
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This is starting to sound like an oil thread: "I've never had a problem with brand X, therefore it's the best oil made."

Just substitute "Mexico" and "safe" and there it is.

The fact that overrides pretty much everything for me is the large numbers of upper middle class Mexicans who are moving their families to the U.S. right now. San Antonio is seeing quite a bit of this.

They're leaving because of their fear of kidnapping.

Couple that with a compromised law enforcement agencies, and I don't think Mexico's safe.

I predict that there will be tourists kidnapped in the not too distant future. I hope it's no one from Adventure Rider.
If you have concluded that it's not presently safe to travel into Mexico I
have no argument with you - "safety" is a personal matter that each of us
must decide for ourselves. If you are suggesting that those of us who have
decided to continue traveling into Mexico have somehow done so without
serving due diligence in the matter then I must respectfully disagree.
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