Is Mexico Safe?

[Craneguy]

Originally Posted by MikeMike

Ok, so who is in for the La Esperanza deal? Or even a ride through the area and a donation to the school?

Let's get a list going.

I'm in!

I'm heading to Xalapa and will be staying a week. I want to ride the area as much as possible: the alternative is hanging out with my in-laws :)


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[MikeMike]

Originally Posted by Craneguy

... the alternative is hanging out with my in-laws :)

This could be the single best reason anyone could ever have for following my line through a corner!

So, are you going to be based in Xalapa, CraneG?
Let me know if you'll need directions, you'll likely take the route through Alto Lucero via Avenida Chedrahui and then from Alto Lucero to Plan de las Hayas and then a left to La Esperanza. If you do, watch out for where the road disappears after a little rise, it'll scare the sht out of you. I did that in daylight, but I think Arte or Andres or one of their group did it at dusk. You'll know the place when you get to it!

Or if you really want something to tell your grandkids about, take the route to Naolinco via Banderilla then take the route to Mafafas via Tepetlan.
On second thought, don't!
I took it once and thought I was going to be writing a note with my fingernails in the clay that would go something like: "Day 23, I have eaten my boots..."
SR might like that route, a couple of very interesting river beds up there, and of course the clay, however it is likely to be flooded right now. The single biggest quantity of goats I have ever seen was at the start of that route and they were coming towards me and I was dumb enough to keep on going.
Sometimes you should follow the goats.

See you soon!

[Craneguy]

Yes, I'll be in Xalapa from next Saturday. I'll have a fully executed, notorized kitchen pass in-hand and I plan to use it.

A client has asked me to go to Angola, so this might be my last ride. Look out for me on CNN.

Ahhh the goats. It's well known that there is a breed of goat in Mexico that gets turned on by motorcycle exhaust noise and likes to mate with front wheels at 80 mph. They often die during sex and legend has it that if they go down on the road, they turn into topes. Their spirit lingers on however, and this might explain why Harleys and their loud pipes have so much trouble with speed bumps here.
The noise of a Harley exhaust scraping over concrete and a goat's "O-Noise" are remarkable similar. Coincidence? I think not...!

True story, Bro! :

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[SchizzMan]

That's some good shtuff, right there.

[rockymountainoyster]

Funny sign Turkeycreek

An Alaskan told me that the reason to file the front sight off of your .44 mag is so that it doesn't hurt so much when the bear shoves it up your ass...is Alaska safe?

[PirateJohn]

Originally Posted by tricepilot

Yes I've heard HGH and EPO are much cheaper in Mexico

Eddy Merckx set the Hour Record in Mexico City decades ago - arguably one of the greatest events in modern cycling.

He was riding a bicycle built by Colnago (Italian builder) and someone immediately slapped some Windsor stickers on it. Windsor was, at the time, building a Mexican copy of Cinelli bicycles.

[PirateJohn]

Originally Posted by pilot815

Not Arte! He is very serious about traveling and maintaining a strict schedule. I enjoy riding with him since we don't spend a lot of time BSing, and actually getting places, so that we can BS by the campfire.

Agreed. Arte is a kind guy, and doesn't allow old and slow gringos to die by the side of the road, but he and his friends hit it hard in the morning and ride hard until they get to their destinations.

[alcanrider]

Originally Posted by rockymountainoyster

Funny sign Turkeycreek

An Alaskan told me that the reason to file the front sight off of your .44 mag is so that it doesn't hurt so much when the bear shoves it up your ass...is Alaska safe?

.44 is the first round that is really safe as far as stopping a grizz. 9mm 45 and he or she will shove it up your arse. The saying goes don't load your 9mm, because you don't want it to go off when the bears shoves it up your arse. My choice is the 12 gauge slug-buckshot-slug-buckshot, just like that. As for bear spray? I really feel that all you are doing is spicing up their dinner. Nothing is totally bear proof. If a brown or grizz want to kill you bad enough, they will. Their heart only beats six times a minute, so theoretically a Brown can rip you apart in less than a couple seconds. Good luck.

[alcanrider]

[QUOTE=SR;19708193]Turkeycreek, I spent a couple of months doing geological field work on a copper project in your neighborhood, in the Sierra NW of Moctezoma, about half way to the Rio Sonora Valley. It was June and July and it got over 100 deg every single day! We got up at 4:00 and worked until noon. Then we'd jump in a luke warm river to cool down and go back to camp to sleep. That's all we could do!

I never saw a bear. I think it's too hot? but I distinctly remember that place having a lot of wildlife. Lots of deer and javali and also lots exotic birds. I remember seeing a few coral snakes and a boa constricter. I never saw one, but they say there is still a healthy population of jaguar and mountain lions in that area. A nice area and a great place for naturalists, if you can handle the heat!

I have not been to Sonora in a while. I'll have to ride up and visit the hotel sometime! Maybe Jimmy will invite me?[/QUOTE

It is so hot and humid in Florida you can't breath, and there are still plenty of bears here.

[Turkeycreek]

It's not the bears you need to worry about, it's the chupacabras...

[Bato]

[rockymountainoyster]

I had a chupacabras dog once... no one but the coyotes ever believed me and they stayed away... Got any pics arroyo huajalote?

[airdale7]

I guess my multi-tool is out of the question since it has a blade. Anyone have know?

[MikeMike]

Originally Posted by airdale74451

I guess my multi-tool is out of the question since it has a blade. Anyone have know?

You are overthinking this way too much.
There are people that carry machetes here that are close to a yard long. Nobody gives a damn.

It's Mexico and the equation is: Worry less, ride more!

[airdale7]

Thanks Mike. Ok, i'm all packed and pulling out of Tahlequah, Ok in about an hour. See you along the way friends.
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