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Old 02-24-2013, 06:12 PM   #13426
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I would go with the boxes, gets all of that high stuff down lower, you want lower cg... when you are up on the pegs with all of that stuff up high it becomes like an inverse pendulum and you have to work to get it swing the other way when you really want all of the weight lower than your but not as high as your waist so it swings more with your foot weight on the pegs. Am I making sense. Take it out loaded each way and just foot steer like you were skiing or doing a fast downhill on your MTB. I think you will see what I mean. But I am not Ramey Stroud. Email him.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:24 PM   #13427
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"Could Mexico owe its "success" to the fact that it has outsourced most of its poverty to the US? The US taxpayer now subsidizes 25% of Mexico's population by educating, housing, and feeding them, etc. To add to this Mexican citizens in the US remit almost all of their tax-free earnings back to Mexico tax free."
I got that same email from a former club member en Florida. Honestly, I think it's just more Mexican hating nonsense tuned to fit the moment.

Tax free? What about payroll taxes withheld? Most people in that tax bracket get a refund because they overpaid.


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Old 02-24-2013, 06:26 PM   #13428
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Dry Bags

Not a big fan of SealLine from rafting experience... and they are expensive. I have been using Ortlieb bags on the bike and am happy so far but have not been in torrential rains... may see some of those as I head out to Yucatan and over to Chiapas. I like the Ortliebs because they are top opening and easy to load/unload, have a good sealing and fastening system. Best dry bag I have ever used is the Bill's bag from NRS... it keeps stuff dry!
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:36 PM   #13429
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Well, hard cases are...uhhh...hard. The bruise on terrapineck's calf will attest to just how hard his Jesse's are. I don't like hard cases off-pavement especially on anything above a class one road. But I agree that the weight should be carried as low as possible. Hence the GL Great Basin or maybe the bags connection wide bag that comes down on the sides.

Or maybe that high dollar Kriega side bag set up. I have a Kriega 20 and it is well made.


For a seat/tailrack bag I love the Motofizz bag I took to Mexico. I will be using that, my TT seat bag, and a set of tank panniers next trip.( Probably mount a Rollie to each side.)
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:37 PM   #13430
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Concept configuration.

Leaving the boxes home.
Huh? Back off the tequila. Put your side boxes back on. Always pack as low as possible. Leave the hard top case at home if you can fit it all in the side cases.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:38 PM   #13431
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Full Disclosure: I am not a king of tire repair issues. There are a lot of riders better at it than I am.

That said, other than a sliced tire near Palenque, I've been able to handle all my own flats quickly and efficiently.

And that flat near Palenque? Well, I just hung around with Ester until I decided what to do.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:44 PM   #13432
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Well, hard cases are...uhhh...hard. The bruise on terrapineck's calf will attest to just how hard his Jesse's are.
And the dozens of spiral fractures that ADVers have had over the years. And the repairs after crashing.

I run awesome aluminum cases but I should be using GL. I strongly advise against the hard cases for rough/offroad use. Hell, even Ted Simon says not to use hard cases.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:44 PM   #13433
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:57 PM   #13434
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But I am not Ramey Stroud. Email him.
This is Ramey Stroud.

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Old 02-24-2013, 07:03 PM   #13435
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+1 on the Motofizz tail bag. Holds a lot of stuff and packs well. Pretty convenient too.
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:06 PM   #13436
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I have a Kriega 50L combo. I can't say yet how waterproof they are, but they kept out dust that managed to get in my waterproof contour camera.

I hate my sidebags too, so unless I need the extra space, the Kriegas on the seat work well. I didn't notice them on my run up the volcano last week (had a fully stuffed E55 Givi topbox too.)

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Old 02-24-2013, 07:07 PM   #13437
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And the dozens of spiral fractures that ADVers have had over the years. And the repairs after crashing.

I run awesome aluminum cases but I should be using GL. I strongly advise against the hard cases for rough/offroad use. Hell, even Ted Simon says not to use hard cases.
+ a bunch. Hard cases will break yo leg.
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:36 PM   #13438
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Hard Case Breaks

Ditto Jimmex on the hard cases. We had a guy break his ankle in SA when he was making a u turn on a paved road on a GS put his foot down while he was still rolling and it got caught between ground and case and the ankle broke. Experienced GS rider, end of SA trip. He would later have a head on with a Corvette who had crossed the CL in France. Pierre walked away... fiberglass Corvette front end destroyed... lucky for Pierre that the fiberglass absorbed most of the impact.
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:45 PM   #13439
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Whatever you do, don't do Class 2 and above stuff packed like this idiot.



I can just imagine how much fun sand would have been.
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:51 PM   #13440
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Yo' all fucking nuts for riding routes with a lot of sand, packed liked that, and claimin' its fun...

edit:
excuse me, I got a few PMs from some one on this thread that I didn't exactly know how to to answer. Yes, if you are going to ride lots of difficult terrain and plan to crash a lot, soft bags are softer. Bob has already said he will avoid any difficult road surfaces. Since he will be trying to ride easy pavement, I think he will probably be ok with hard bags. In any case, easy pavement or tough single track, why would loading top heavy be better.
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