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Old 03-31-2013, 05:42 PM   #14431
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:45 PM   #14432
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Belize is going to bore you after the first 24hrs or so. Unless you are diving or doing something that is either illegal or immoral.
Base yourself out of Oaxaca, someplace other than Oaxaca City but close enough you can do the market and such. You are literally surrounded by very good riding in Oaxaca and you can easily go north, south, east, or west and find something interesting. Campeche or Merida limits you to only 3 compass points. There is a BMW dealer in Oaxaca that is not that great, but at least you can get OEM parts if you need them and you miss the feeling of what an empty wallet is like.
I've always had a good time in Belize. Maybe I'm so ordinary that resorts are relaxing to me; is that ok with you?

Anyway I'll definitely take your advice on looking into Oaxaca. A quick google search shows nice places like the one below for less than $1500 per month. Nice places in Tulum run closer to $2500 per month.
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:45 PM   #14433
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:46 PM   #14434
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:11 PM   #14435
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If you're 6' and 270# with blonde hair, they will know you're a gringo anyways.

WTF makes you think I'm 270# and 6'. You might be projecting. Good thing is all you have to do is stop eating and you can solve this problem


Ditch the fancy ass DSLR. They're a pain in the ass to carry around. Buy something like a Canon S90. Dang good pics, and not a pain in the ass. You won't cry as much if you lose it or drop it. Stealth pics are easier too. You're not going to Mexico to win a lens-measuring contest.

Really dude. This comment would have gotten your ass kicked had you said it to me in person but you and I both know that wouldn't have happened because in real life you're no so brave. For what it's worth my OM-D already has over 30,000 miles on it. I love it when the internet turns dorks like yourself into keyboard Rambos. Whatever floats yer boat just know that people know.


Buy SjoerdBakker's book. You can pay less or you can pay as much as the US. Some negotiation may happen based on if you take a good room or a not so cool room. You may pay a gringo tax, just cause you're not Mexican. Live with it. Maybe the hotelier makes a few extra pesos off you, but they may need the money more than you. Plus, they aren't running drugs, so you're supporting the local economy.

Thanks I'll definitely take your advice on the book and rest assured I'll be infusing mucho dinero into the local economy.

Where's the pic of the Star Wars fish head guy with the "IT'S A TRAP!" caption when you need it.

I'm feeling sorry for you again. Don't worry guy. Somewhere out there; there's a girl for you too. I hope you find her. BTW she's not on the adult friend finder or anywhere on the internet

SR just survived a trip to Oaxaca. He and others live in Mexico- in allegedly dangerous places. JDowns camped throughout Mexico. They're still alive.

Fucking awesome

5.2) Trouble will find you easily...If you walk around drunk and naked with several 500 peso notes stuffed in between your glutii maxiumus. Otherwise, just don't be stupid. But bad stuff can still happen- just like anywhere. You're not in Kansas anymore- and that can be good at times, and bad at times.

Again dude. WTF makes you think I'm going to stuff money in my butthole? You meet people on the internet don't you. Fucking complete weirdo dude.


The barren fields and grey skies of western Ohio are quite appealing right now. Just beware the drug couriers running I-75, I-80 & I-69 and stay out of Detroit, cause you'll die. Gary Indiana ain't no field trip either.

I'll keep this nugget of information handy next time I think of vacationing in god damned Gary Indiana
Mark, being a prick on the internet is a sure sign of many things. None are good. Thanks for the laugh brother.
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:21 PM   #14436
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Really dude. This comment would have gotten your ass kicked had you said it to me in person but you and I both know that wouldn't have happened because in real life you're no so brave.
Gun Smoke,

Threats such as this are a violation of the site's rules. If you haven't read the rules already I suggest you do so.

Another post like this and you'll get a vacation from ADV for awhile.

Comprende?

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Old 03-31-2013, 06:24 PM   #14437
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Sorry about that. It definitely won't happen again. Dude man just really pissed me off. I shouldn't let 14 year olds get to me like that.

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Gun Smoke,

Threats such as this are a violation of the site's rules. If you haven't read the rules already I suggest you do so.

Another post like this and you'll get a vacation from ADV for awhile.

Comprende?

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Old 03-31-2013, 06:27 PM   #14438
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:28 PM   #14439
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Mark, being a prick on the internet is a sure sign of many things. None are good. Thanks for the laugh brother.
Might want to back that down a bit Amigo. Mark is a good guy and he was just kidding you.

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You asked about the wisdom of riding a BMW and Mark answered well so I didn't say anything, but my experience has always been that even with my 13 year old and very dirty R11.5 that parking lot attendants and so forth will go out of their way to protect your bike. I have had Transitos give me the thumbs up and in one really weird case they gave me an escort to my hotel in Monterrey a few years back.

So I wouldn't sweat it.

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Old 03-31-2013, 06:40 PM   #14440
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Sorry about that. It definitely won't happen again. Dude man just really pissed me off. I shouldn't let 14 year olds get to me like that.
Slow down amigo. Mark883 is a veterano in these here parts and is well thought of. A lot of us Mex riders here know each other in real life too. Much better to make amigos here than enemigos.

Most of your questions have been answered, but as for the repeat border questions, the border is a fluid situation and rules change officially and unofficially, and things change at different crossing points. I've been all over Mexico (except for tourist resorts) by car, bike, bus, plane , and I still ask questions.

I'll give you my slant on your questions in my next post.

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Old 03-31-2013, 06:41 PM   #14441
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Regarding the wisdom of riding a BMW; Mexico is awash with gringos and nationals riding BMW's.
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:42 PM   #14442
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Lens measuring contest?

Reminds me of a great gag in Spanish about a Chinese cat burglar at the Los Pinos presidential palace in Mexico City and Peña Nieto's second wife.

If the Mystery Rider is lurking, remind me to tell you the one about the patron with ganas for the maid, and the one about the 3 guys and the high class prostibulo.

If you don't laugh, I'll buy you breakfast at the leña, same deal goes for Craneguy..though he usually has some better ones. But I'll go toe to toe with him with the patron con ganas joke!
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:46 PM   #14443
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I swear the patron con ganas gag is funnier than my favorite Pepito and Sarita playing charades joke.
And thst one was chingon.
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:58 PM   #14444
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I'll give you my slant on your questions in my next post.

Saludos,

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Thanks Mike I look forward to it. And you can expect a polite and respectful response from me for your polite and respectful answers. Thanks again.
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Old 03-31-2013, 07:27 PM   #14445
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Hey guys a few questions if I could. I'm planning on heading south for a few months in September. Plan on spending Christmas in Tulum and touring the Yucatan. Ideally I'd like to take a month or so getting down. I figured Baja to La Paz and then the ferry over to the mainland. I've travelled to every US state Canada and Alaska but this would be my first foray into Mexico on two wheels.

If you are interested in Mayan ruins, I would suggest Chichen Itza instead of Tulum.

My questions

1) I understand leaving wrist watches and jewelry at home but is it wise to ride the 12GS or should I pick up a Honda or something? I'm not going to ride an XR so I would be getting an ST or Goldwing or some sort of touring rig not necessarily a Honda; just wondering if the BMW is a beacon for robbery? Ideally I would prefer to ride my GS.

I've taken my Rolex Submariner into Mexico and even Angola and Nigeria. Never had a problem, but then again I don't flash the watch. However, on a bike I take a low cost watch in case I have a fall, and I don't even wear the watch when riding, because they can cut you if you have a fall. I read a Submariner went right through a guy's wrist once. I leave the watch in the tank bag, which is not a good idea for a Rolex if your tank bag has magnets in it, unless your Rolex is a Milgauss. Use a Casio.

Plenty of guys are riding the GS. You will be fine on that bike. I ride a 250cc with d/p tires. It's light, great fuel, low-tech, and I can fix everything on it myself in the field outside of the engine. Can you do that with your GS? In fact today I just mounted my d/p tires as I will be rolling into Mexico again soon and need to test these new tires beforehand.

A lot of us here talk about 'risk management' and 'risk profile' (thanks to tricepilot). You will have to develop your own. This is the right place to start getting ideas for doing such.

2) I've been to Tulum and the Mayan Riviera and I know those areas are safe. My Camera. Is that something that will also draw attention in some of the towns along the way?

Safe? There was just a series of murders in a Cancun bar within the last few weeks. Safe is a relative word. Many of us don't consider the Mayan Riviera to be the real Mexico, but if that is your idea of recreation, then enjoy. As for your camera, personally I would not take an SLR because of luggage space. I take a small digital. The pictures are good enough for my friends, family, blogging, etc. My iphone camera is a backup. However, your SLR would probably not make you a target.

3) I normally take a rambling approach to cruising. I never plan a route I usually just head in a general direction. It's not unusual for me to make no more than 150 miles a day towards my final destination after taking all the sight seeing detours. Can I ride alone anywhere I like safely as I do in the states without to much worry of robbery. I guess what I'm asking is will I be limited to the major highways or can I take the secondary roads to smaller towns which I prefer. There-in lies my camera question too. Is it safe to take pictures with a SLR type camera in the smaller towns?

I would advise against the "Then Came Bronson" approach to riding in Mexico. I would at least get a Guia Roji map book. I don't use a GPS but I plan my routes out and then make a paper strip map that goes in my tank bag's window. For some places I will use a map and compass. I have ordered topographic maps in advance of travel. I have used these maps and compass to help me locate abandoned ruins (haciendas). In some cases I have to ditch the bike and take a quadruped and often depend on locals to help me scout. I would not suggest you do that unless you can speak the language fluently. You also have to have something that I call "presence." Hard for me to describe, but maybe guys like Bato and Arte can explain. As for robbery, you are actually more likely to get robbed on a highway then on a back road.

4) How much can I expect to pay for a hotel room per night and do Americans get charged more than Mexicans? If so is it possible to negotiate the nightly rate. Is that insulting in Mexico?

Get Sjoerd's book. I've never experienced this "tax," but then again I speak the language. It is not an insult to ask for a lower price. It's only an insult if you start acting like a dickhead about it.

5) Sorry for this question but I just read about 200 pages of very boring "border crossing" post trying to get an overall feel for the safety of things. To no avail. It gives the impression everyone in this thread just goes back and forth to different border crossings and then runs here to post about it lol. BTW this thread has enough border crossing post. Extremely boring reading about whether you'll get taxed for your computer or whether this crossing is better than that crossing or "I spent four hours at this crossing but five minutes at that crossing only to find Mexican Costco was a complete mess" LOL.

I already commented on this topic.

5.1) Anyway my question. What is the state of things today in southern rural Mexico. Pretty safe if you keep your nose clean.

Keep your nose clean.

5.2) Trouble will find you easily

Only if you look for it. This includes chasing pussy if that's what you are going after. The putas are of course available, but you will have to be polite to them. Latinos in general are polite to their whores. If you are interested in the drinking and the partying crowd, then you may be looking for trouble and it will find you.

5.3) Not a good time to travel or things are okay?

Things are okay IMO.

5.4) What are some things I should never do that I might not be aware of?

-Don't chase skirts.
-Don't flash money.
-Don't be loud.
-Don't be rude.
-Smile and offer a handshake when dealing with others.
-Start off a conversation by asking how their day is going.
-Be complimentary but not obsequious.
-Be courteous and display manners. Unlike in the US, manners in Latin America are considered a strength, and are not considered a sign of pansy weakness.


Thanks guys

I read the first page which said post recent questions at end of thread; so I did. I have tried to read as much of the thread as possible before posting the questions I have here. Thanks for any help.
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