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Old 06-22-2014, 01:45 AM   #1
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Bike Regret

I was checking out some pics on the forum today and I got to thinking about a moment at the bike dealership in 2007. I sold my R6 and I was planning my Alaska trip and I was needing an adventure bike. I was down to a GS, KTM 990 Adventure, and the 650 V Strom. There wasn't a BMW dealership near by my area so I was pretty much looking at used BMWs with no luck. The dealer I went to sold KTM and Suzuki together. I was there an hour sitting on both bikes and a salesman came up to me and asked if there were any more questions I had. I asked if the KTM held more advantages over the V Strom on a trip like that. He said the KTM was over priced and not worth it, The Strom was the way to go. I like the bike and we have had lots of fun over the years but looking back and knowing more about bikes of the adventure genre now I kind of kick myself for not having the 990.

Any of you have any similar regrets on not buying a bike you should have?
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Old 06-22-2014, 02:34 AM   #2
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I was checking out some pics on the forum today and I got to thinking about a moment at the bike dealership in 2007. I sold my R6 and I was planning my Alaska trip and I was needing an adventure bike. I was down to a GS, KTM 990 Adventure, and the 650 V Strom. There wasn't a BMW dealership near by my area so I was pretty much looking at used BMWs with no luck. The dealer I went to sold KTM and Suzuki together. I was there an hour sitting on both bikes and a salesman came up to me and asked if there were any more questions I had. I asked if the KTM held more advantages over the V Strom on a trip like that. He said the KTM was over priced and not worth it, The Strom was the way to go. I like the bike and we have had lots of fun over the years but looking back and knowing more about bikes of the adventure genre now I kind of kick myself for not having the 990.

Any of you have any similar regrets on not buying a bike you should have?
I have a 2007 990, all I can say is: don't regret not having bought it, especially for a long haul trip. It is thoroughly uncomfortable for long days in the saddle (I had the adventure S with the raised motard style seat to accommodate my size), totally hardcore. Mid trip, I had to add heated grips, and they didn't work properly... ever...

It is expensive to have maintenance done, and difficult... Go find a ktm dealer in eastern Europe if you want a challenge. Changing oil is hours worth of work, about 12 pages in the user manual as all the panels need removing. So forget doing it yourself on the side of the road. It generally feels like a mechanically fragile bike so you're always worried when the next issue might raise its head.

In the end it didn't give me any nasty surprises, but seeing how unreliable and fickle it is, based on posts on this forum, it might very well have given me major headaches...

It is sturdily built, i'll give it that (low side slide, twice and I could keep going, bent handlebars and all...)

Did I mention expensive ownership??

Only reason I'm keeping it is because I have an emotional attachment to it, given the trip I did. But I'm not looking forward to the bill when I will have to have a major overhaul done, at only 50000 km. Totally insane.

That's why I'm looking into the new v storm 1000 as my new daily and long distance ride.
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Old 06-22-2014, 10:05 AM   #3
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Back in the day all the magazines were lit up with the big news that Il Monstro was coming to the US. It was going to be a mailed fist of Italian power and elegant design. It was going to be this colossus of two wheeled force.

I shopped them.

I bought a Katana 750.

Still regret it. But I have a lot of purchase regrets from that period: Transalp, Hawk GT, FZR 750, RC- Anything, K100RS 4 valve, etc.

But Il Monstro is the big regret.

I camped and traveled all over the country on the Suzuki. It was a great bike. But every time I see a monster now I have this little voice in the back of my head saying "aw, man..."
I was a terrible mechanic back then. I didn't have the skill to keep one on the road if it broke down in Moosecock Saskatchewan at 2 in the AM. It was probably for the best.

I think we all understand Wayne Campbell's struggle, in this respect.
I have this same affliction when it comes to the Diavel nowadays. Though I have developed a grim determination that it will be mine, probably because of the Il Monstro debacle.
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Old 06-22-2014, 10:10 AM   #4
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For a long trip like that the first thing on my list would be reliability and dealer network for parts etc. A co worker of mine did a long trip on a BMW and had terrible support for his GS and had to re-route his whole trip so there would be a dealer available. I've never owned a BMW so I can't comment on personal experience. The KTM would also worry me as parts might be difficult to source. I would think there would be a Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha dealer close or closer then the others and anyone can pretty much work on them at a dealer. I'd go with the Suzuki.
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Old 06-22-2014, 10:45 AM   #5
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agreed with manganos. Knowing what I know now, the suzuki is a hell of a complete package to beat. Just about perfect (like lets say the new v storm) Sensible in every way.

S10 is up there too.

All the euros, stay away unless you have a direct line to a dedicated dealer or company team that can send you parts.
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Old 06-22-2014, 12:07 PM   #6
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Only bike I regret not getting was the SV1000N. I wanted one in the worst way but couldn't afford it. I ended up getting an EX500 which was pretty cheap but very good little bike.

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Old 06-22-2014, 12:56 PM   #7
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The Weestrom 1000 is way better than the S10, have ridden both no comparision in my book. 2014 issue of Motor Cyclist tested R1200GS Adven, 1190 Adven R, Triumph Tiger Exp Xc. and S10, they should have tested the Wee1000 and it would have beaten the S10 for second place.


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agreed with manganos. Knowing what I know now, the suzuki is a hell of a complete package to beat. Just about perfect (like lets say the new v storm) Sensible in every way.

S10 is up there too.

All the euros, stay away unless you have a direct line to a dedicated dealer or company team that can send you parts.
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Old 06-22-2014, 01:23 PM   #8
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Had an S10....regretted trading it. Got a Triumph Trophy....regretted buying it. No do overs. Traded the Trophy.....very glad I did it. Got a Tiger XC....Im happy again.
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Old 06-22-2014, 02:03 PM   #9
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When I decided to trade in my scooter and buy my first motorcycle last year, I was debating between the CBR250 and the Ninja 300. I wallowed around on my decision as I waited for slightly better weather before getting a bike for the year.

Well, the day I went in to make my final decision and sign for a bike (the 300), the Ninja was gone. As was the rest of the Kawi's he had. He dropped Kawi from his line-up a week or two before. Now, I could have gone to another dealership not too far away, but I wouldn't have gotten nearly as much for my scooter since this guy was a Genuine dealer.

I still wonder 'what if'. Would I have lasted longer on the 300 than the CBR? Would I still be riding it now? Or would I have pulled the tigger on a trade-in and gone even more upside down than I did? I traded the CBR in after 5 months/5,000 miles for my Gladius.
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Old 06-22-2014, 02:07 PM   #10
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Old 06-22-2014, 02:16 PM   #11
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I don't regret any of the purchases.
But I regret many of the sales.

Once I learned that, I ended up keeping most.
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Old 06-22-2014, 04:11 PM   #12
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Only once. In a frightful spat of practical thinking I bought a PC800 for commuting. Hated it immensely and got rid of it in less than 24 hours from time of purchase


I rode a Plastic Coast back when they were in showrooms and noped right off of it after a short jaunt.

I'm with you. Great machine for someone else.
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Old 06-22-2014, 07:53 PM   #13
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