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Old 04-14-2010, 04:06 PM   #91
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Ray,

Both crafty and innovative!!!

Can you fill it ok from where it is located i.e. no interference with the rack, seat etc???
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:38 PM   #92
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Toward the rear end of the bike, but under the rack. That way you dont need to remove any cargo from the rack to fillup! Just a thought...it may look funny thou....do a mock first...

Dont you think that aluminum plate is an overkill? The thickness mut be at a 1/2 of an inch....I did mine which must be at around 3/16"...I can get thickness tomorrow....but that one must be heavy. But I like the concept.

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in which direction?
and to achieve what end?

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Old 04-15-2010, 09:47 AM   #93
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yes it is...

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Ray,

Both crafty and innovative!!!

Can you fill it ok from where it is located i.e. no interference with the rack, seat etc???
with the rack flipped up, a gas nozzle drops right into the filler and I can see into the tank proper.

Also, gasoline will expand after coming out of underground storage tanks.
I have to remember to not over fill the tank as the tank vent is on the rim of the neck flange.
That will require a one-way check valve, I'm sure.
That's perhaps a good reason not to extend the full neck, as I need to manually monitor the tank air space.
We'll see how it goes out in the real world.

stay tuned
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Old 04-15-2010, 12:09 PM   #94
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Ray-

Perhaps you could use a thinner plate, like Loco mentioned, and mill holes throughout the plate to make it even lighter, kind of like a bash plate, and place one of the holes right above the fill neck so you can fill the aux. gas tank "through" the rear rack plate, instead of having to flip it up. Just an idea.

If that makes no sense to you, let me know and I will post a picture of my plate when Im back on my computer at home -- Im distracting myself in class right now

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Old 04-15-2010, 01:24 PM   #95
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....on my computer at home -- Im distracting myself in class right now

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or texting in class.....
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Old 04-15-2010, 03:32 PM   #96
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-- Im distracting myself in class right now

hey son, thought i would miss that ???
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Old 04-18-2010, 05:09 PM   #97
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OCD or OCPD ??????

Obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) is a mental disorder characterized by intrusive thoughts that produce anxiety, by repetitive behaviors aimed at reducing anxiety, or by a combination of such thoughts (obsessions) and behaviors (compulsions)....

..."obsessive–compulsive" ...is often used in a caricatured manner to describe someone who is meticulous, perfectionistic, absorbed in a cause, or otherwise fixated on something.. Although these signs may be present in OCD, a person who exhibits them does not necessarily have OCD, and may instead have obsessive–compulsive personality disorder (OCPD), an autism spectrum disorder, or no clinical condition. (credit to Wikipedia)

The followers of this thread will recall the mis-fit between the TA seat and the AT fuel tank, which I said would have to wait until next winter to be resolved....



well....I couldn't let it go, it just bothered me.

...all I had to do was remove the seat cover, lay-out a pattern of slits to be cut in the base....



break the strips up a little bit, clamp the pieces flat, fill-in the slits with 5 minute epoxy....



uncurl the front lip, grind some of the edge contours away, re-epoxy everthing back together.....



re-install the cover, move the mounting bracket forward slightly, and ......





and DONE. Now wasn't that easy?
A thing of beauty...

OCD is ego dystonic, the disorder is incompatible with the sufferer's self-concept, disorders that go against a person's self-concept, tend to cause much distress.

OCPD, on the other hand, is ego syntonic—marked by the person's acceptance that the characteristics displayed as a result of this disorder are compatible with his or her self-image. Ego syntonic disorders cause no distress.

People with OCD are often unhappy about their obsessions but feel compelled by them. People with OCPD are not aware of anything abnormal about themselves; they will readily explain why their actions are rational, and it is usually impossible to convince them otherwise.

People with OCD are ridden with anxiety; by contrast, people with OCPD tend to derive pleasure from their obsessions or compulsions.

I feel so much better now that the seat matches the tank contour.

stay tuned,
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Old 04-19-2010, 11:06 AM   #98
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Old 04-19-2010, 07:11 PM   #99
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Old 04-21-2010, 07:29 PM   #100
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Great build. I can't imagine the 1000's of hours. Hope to get started on my TA this summer. Got to finish the current project first :).

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Old 04-22-2010, 12:23 PM   #101
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-- Im distracting myself in class right now

hey son, thought i would miss that ???
Well, I was hoping so.

Dont act like you dont distract yourself at work too...


Keep up the good work Ray, I cant wait to see more progress

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Old 04-23-2010, 06:14 PM   #102
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you guys remember this?

from a few pages back...





well now it looks like this....







When my fabricator bent-up the flat layout, the folds on the right-hand side did not match-up and he called me to look at it.
So before welding, I had the chance to mount the plate to the bike, "adjust the fit" to the frame with a torch and hammer.
And lay-out the mounting holes.

Its held to the frame with five U-clamps around the frame tubes, one left side, two front and two right side.
Plus two thru bolts, one left rear corner and one front center top.

The plate is 3/16" aluminum (5052-H32), the mounting hardware is 1/4" grade 8 bolts.

The next item is the pannier racks. I've 3/4" square tubing and a design.
but I'm having a hard time finding a fabricator that can bend smooth 90 degree corners in square tubing.
All my usual vendors want to cut, miter, weld and grind. I really want just a nice smooth bend.

Oh well, that will have to wait....
Sunday me, my RT and four of my buds pull-out for New Orleans. That's right, four guys, four bikes and forteen days of mayhem.
I am so ready....see ya later.

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Old 04-23-2010, 06:25 PM   #103
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Very nice. Comming right along.


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Old 04-23-2010, 09:25 PM   #104
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Real nice! I like it!
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Old 04-25-2010, 06:48 PM   #105
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Brilliant!

Looks very neat and tidy Ray!!
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