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Old 03-24-2013, 09:15 AM   #586
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Great thread!

Can I throw a few in while trying to catch up on all the fantastic tips?

Nice subject, I love objects like that, but just the wrong time of day. Having most of the key part of the photo in shadow just doesn't work like this. The option I see is to maybe try and make the composition mostly the frame and completely in shadow.

Sometimes the light just isn't there....off on a tangent but last night I took some concert photos and there were a few times I didn't even bother since looking at it I knew that even at ISO 25,600 I wasn't going to be able to pull it out even though it was an amazing shot. It's just one of those things about photography and even as your gear gets better there will always be that 1 shot out of reach for some reason.

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FWIW, both were taken with a P&S - Canon PowerShot A720 IS. Straight out of the camera.

That camera is no longer with us. Used it all up. Currently using a Pentax W90 but thinking about adding a Canon G12 for when I actually stop and take a picture. Maybe there's a better choice in the neighborhood.

Regardless, thanks for taking the time to walk us all through this.

First on the camera. I'm really biased since my first digital was a Canon A320.

For the 2nd shot it looks pretty generic in the angle, you do have the lightpost and light house looking pretty symmetrical though, and that's the real promise I get out of this shot since if you are thinking of doing things like that you're on a good path.

Just try moving around a bit more, taking the shot from up high, ground level, those to the left, right, etc. find cool little similarities you can make like you did and put them in a more dynamic composition.
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Old 03-24-2013, 09:17 AM   #587
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I'll post one of my own (feel free to C&C)....I took a ton of concert photos last night and this was the first on I processed:



There are a couple dots I need to clean up, I did it at 4AM trying to post something from the show before crashing.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:06 PM   #588
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I've been waiting on the D800, but think i'm going to just get the 700... thoughts on that decision?
700 would be a used one no? Nikon seems to have just dropped the price, at least for now on the 800.

I love my D700 but newer tends to be better with technology.
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Old 03-25-2013, 03:09 AM   #589
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Nice subject, I love objects like that, but just the wrong time of day. Having most of the key part of the photo in shadow just doesn't work like this. The option I see is to maybe try and make the composition mostly the frame and completely in shadow.

Sometimes the light just isn't there....off on a tangent but last night I took some concert photos and there were a few times I didn't even bother since looking at it I knew that even at ISO 25,600 I wasn't going to be able to pull it out even though it was an amazing shot. It's just one of those things about photography and even as your gear gets better there will always be that 1 shot out of reach for some reason.



First on the camera. I'm really biased since my first digital was a Canon A320.

For the 2nd shot it looks pretty generic in the angle, you do have the lightpost and light house looking pretty symmetrical though, and that's the real promise I get out of this shot since if you are thinking of doing things like that you're on a good path.

Just try moving around a bit more, taking the shot from up high, ground level, those to the left, right, etc. find cool little similarities you can make like you did and put them in a more dynamic composition.
First shot - yeah, after reading just some of your thread it was clear to me that shot wasn't what I may have thought it was when I took it. Just one of those neat things you see along the way and you try to capture it as best you can when the opportunity strikes. In this case there was no going back for different lighting, etc. In the future I will try and spend more time trying to capture what I can out of a scene like that taking the shadows, etc into consideration. Maybe something could have been made out of that front end from another angle.

Second shot was also a 'photo' - ok, pic - of opportunity. Our shooting position - the very point of the bow of the ship - was literally chosen under the cloak of darkness. We weren't about to give it up for another angle that may not have existed for us.

When traveling that seems to be a common theme for us - 'photo of opportunity'. It's either the right time or it isn't ever going to be because we're moving on. I guess this isn't the end of the world as in the end they do their job to bring back the memories. However, we're both trying to improve our shooting. SCS may even be along to toss some in here. I pointed her in your direction.

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I'll post one of my own (feel free to C&C)....I took a ton of concert photos last night and this was the first on I processed:



There are a couple dots I need to clean up, I did it at 4AM trying to post something from the show before crashing.
Tell me about those tears. They're huge. How'd you do it?

The skeleton keychain earring blurred in the background is a nice touch.

Black and white is always facinating to me.

Over all, what's not to like?
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Tell me about those tears. They're huge. How'd you do it?

The skeleton keychain earring blurred in the background is a nice touch.

Black and white is always facinating to me.

Over all, what's not to like?
That's all her, she had glue on rhinestones. I love to shoot the band since they're always in crazy costumes; and the video from that show isn't up yet but here's one from the Mayan Apocalypse ORG (a local series of various art forms):



It's kinda cool watching this because @ 3:02 you see this shot:



And I also took this one during that song:



Amazing venue though, I was there last night for a burlesque based on the music of the Jackson's and having so much clear, white light is so rare. Usually I'm stuck at ISO 12,800-25,600 and it's all red which is why B&W works so well since it's like I was using a red filter.

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Prepping the gear and running around before a shoot right now so I can't do a full write up on the images. But for the camera do you find yourself needing more resolution than the D300? And do you need video? If not the D700 is perfect, it's one of the most well rounded cameras out there and can do nearly anything...it's not the best anymore for anything but does it all really well. Its only real weakness is that 12 MP resolution/lack of video.
Yea, i don't need the video and more so wanted something with much better ISO capabilities. I think you hit it right on the head, not the best but does it all well. And no problem on the images.. appreciate your feedback.
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700 would be a used one no? Nikon seems to have just dropped the price, at least for now on the 800.

I love my D700 but newer tends to be better with technology.
http://shop.nikonusa.com/store/nikon...oryID.43886800
Yes, i'd try to find a used one (with low shutter count). I'm hoping the price continues to drop on the 7 as well.
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Yes, i'd try to find a used one (with low shutter count). I'm hoping the price continues to drop on the 7 as well.
It shouldn't be too hard, 150,000 is a huge shutter life so unless they are a pro who does large events or some other field that involves lots of shots it'll be fine. I just looked at mine and I only have 38k shots and that's since 1/09.
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ot at). I've been waiting on the D800, but think i'm going to just get the 700... thoughts on that decision?
you only live once. again I love my D700 but as they say if you go, go big. a D4 is next for me and it's coming soon I'm tired of procrastinating.

buying into the latest technology is almost always a better move in my book. if you were looking at a commuter car and just wanted a used civic or corolla to pile miles on, sure if you find a good used one get it. but given the amazing capabilities of the D800, why not.
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Post questions about your camera or lens choices.

Post images for critique.

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Been reading several pages of this thread Excellent thread, learning lots, much appreciated. Positively not my field of expertise, lol, mine often do not convey what I saw & tried to convey, Lots of what I would consider really good shots here & yet when I move to the critique & read the stuff you & Snoid point out is really good advice & would improve the image.

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I've been reading your thread the last few days and find it very enlightening. I'm looking at things differently now.

Just got a new camera for Christmas - Canon G12. Trying to get better with my picture taking.

Here's a few I took last year with an older Canon A1100 IS.

I'm looking to capture buildings such as this but with a bit more 'pizazz'.



Trying to show some depth with the Bob Ross bravery test tree in the foreground. You tell me if it worked.

Here's one from the back of the bike trying to get something from a different angle.



Look forward to hearing your suggestions on how to become a better photographer.

Thank you for taking the time to help me through this process.
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Just a bit of spam but mucho worthy spam. It turns out that Nik Software was bought by Google last year. If you don't know Nik, they make an awesome set of Photoshop/Aperture plugins. I've used their Silver Efex Pro for quite some time in my own b/w work. Google lowered the price for their entire suite from $499 to $149. If you are a previous owner of their stuff you get the whole suite for FREE. Woot. I almost missed this because the announcement ended up in my spam folder because too many people had flagged it as a possible phishing scam.

http://www.macrumors.com/2013/03/25/...-and-aperture/
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Just a bit of spam but mucho worthy spam. It turns out that Nik Software was bought by Google last year. If you don't know Nik, they make an awesome set of Photoshop/Aperture plugins. I've used their Silver Efex Pro for quite some time in my own b/w work. Google lowered the price for their entire suite from $499 to $149. If you are a previous owner of their stuff you get the whole suite for FREE. Woot. I almost missed this because the announcement ended up in my spam folder because too many people had flagged it as a possible phishing scam.

http://www.macrumors.com/2013/03/25/...-and-aperture/
Can you post some examples of the plug ins in action? Adobe just sent me to the poor house but 149 isn't too bad.
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I've been reading your thread the last few days and find it very enlightening. I'm looking at things differently now.

Just got a new camera for Christmas - Canon G12. Trying to get better with my picture taking.

Here's a few I took last year with an older Canon A1100 IS.

I'm looking to capture buildings such as this but with a bit more 'pizazz'.



Trying to show some depth with the Bob Ross bravery test tree in the foreground. You tell me if it worked.
Ah, happy trees!

The problem is the tree is between the tree in the foreground and those evergreens they are obscuring a lot of the building so it isn't really the focus for the viewer. If you could line it up so they follow one of the lines of the building (while leaving a lot of the building uncovered) that would work. And right now it's very close to a standard 3/4 view of a building...I might be going too art-y here but think of the building like your clay that you can mold with the camera. Take that raw material and try manipulating it either with objects like you tried....or different angles to really make something to grab the viewers attention and keep them in the image.

Here's one from the back of the bike trying to get something from a different angle.

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Look forward to hearing your suggestions on how to become a better photographer.

Thank you for taking the time to help me through this process.
I like this idea, try having the focal point be out on the landscape though....and the challenge will be pointing the bike out onto an interesting landscape. Photography is weird in that what to our eyes looks amazing can be just so-so.....and the mundane can be brought out to be an epic shot.
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