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Old 02-05-2011, 03:41 PM   #61
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So Shirley you can contribute some post Soviet Union, mc gang violence/murder/mayhem stories,
to add to the mix ?
We've got enough violence and murder without a bunch of Hells Angels wannabes riding around fagging up the place. Thanks for asking, though.
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Old 02-05-2011, 04:44 PM   #62
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Old 02-05-2011, 05:42 PM   #63
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If I had to choose between MC outlaws, or idiot gangbangers acting stupid and talking jibberish I'd take the MC outlaws.

At least many of the MC outlaws have a tradition and a history.

This



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If given a third choice...none would be the best option
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Old 02-05-2011, 05:44 PM   #64
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How timely. I just spent a good part of the afternoon (after a few hours wrenching in my shop) watching "Outlaw Biker Gangs" marathon on the National Geographic channel! There is some allure to the brotherly, fiercely loyal family aspect. But the honor is mostly gone. Murder and organized crime soley for the purpose of profit and greed are the norm. Members turning on their own for more greed (or to acquire their possessions). And, of course, they all turn into snitches when they are by themselves, with the law, behind closed doors.

Scary people? Some of them more honorable than others? Sure. But basically they are violent, common criminals that find courage in numbers and masquerade as bikers in order to carry out their criminal activities.

Oh yeah, cool pictures at the beginning of this thread. I bet that guy with the funky jacket did get laid a lot.
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Old 02-05-2011, 06:12 PM   #65
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Scary people? Some of them more honorable than others? Sure. But basically they are violent, common criminals that find courage in numbers and masquerade as bikers in order to carry out their criminal activities
Pretty much my opinion on them as well. Tell me all you want about how it was all different back in the day and idolize/hero-worship the guys you hung around as a kid back in the 50's, but that's not how it is right now, and it's not because they were "outlaws", but because they were good people.
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Old 02-05-2011, 07:46 PM   #66
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Once an ADV thread, that starts simply with period photos of motorcycling's outsiders/outcasts, but quickly transcends into debating the morals/ethics of the outlaw mc scene, it might as well be about politics, the middle east, or the right to life movement.

When the "discussions" start dealing with "violence/murder/mayhem", it naturally ends up in a shit storm of passion and opinions, instead of merely noting the simplistic origins and evolvement, of this motorcycling counter culture through the decades. Hence it's similarity, to the majority of Harley threads and rapid probable descent, to Jo momma obscurity.

And I always appreciate (along with the spelling checkers), someone keeping track of photo counts vs postings and bringing it to my attention.

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Old 02-05-2011, 08:00 PM   #67
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Once an ADV thread, that starts simply with period photos of motorcycling's outsiders/outcasts, but quickly transcends into debating the morals/ehics of the outlaw mc scene, it might as well be about politics, the middle east, or the right to life movement.
Once again, this thread has a grand total of 2-3 posts with photos in them. Either post some of your own, or stop bitching about the lack of content that you're doing nothing to provide.
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:12 PM   #68
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I have a friend who rides and patched out in a club. From his version, it sounded kinda like being in the military. Didn't sound so fun, but his friends I met that were involved were pretty cool, or so it seemed.
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:58 PM   #69
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Seems like folks romantisize the past (mostly). We do it with cowboys, wars/military, vikings and explorers, and so on.
As far as that guys vest goes, it's no worse than many rockers of the same period. Carpy is a good example of a flamboyant hold-over.
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Old 02-05-2011, 09:10 PM   #70
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For pictures' sake, a couple of the nicest guys I ever met;





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Old 02-05-2011, 10:36 PM   #71
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There, one probable multilingual full time student (self appointed thread custodian), finally on my meagre ignore list.

Some thirty years ago, it's late, I'm outside the bar with the ex, trying to figure out whether this clubber's chop, has a Pan or Knuckle bottom end, with a Shovel topend. As always, I'm fixated with trying to figure out the mechanical aspects, can't recognize the timing chest's outer cover as being Knuckle or early Pan, finally ask the rider who's in the process of starting his bike and get my answer. I relax, mystery solved and reach for my gal, to chat about the bike in question. Only she wandered away and the woman I've got my arm around, is riding with the clubbers. I'd give good money, to have a photograph of the expression on my face at that time, but it must have been drop dead honest panic struck, cause she just laughed and I emerged unscathed...

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Old 02-05-2011, 10:50 PM   #72
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I think this thread is too fucking judgmental for me to post in.. but, I like the bikes.
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Old 02-06-2011, 06:01 AM   #73
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Real Mad Max vibe... I like it.

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There, one probable multilingual full time student (self appointed thread custodian), finally on my meagre ignore list.
For someone who's 54 years old, you sure do act like a little kid.
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Old 02-06-2011, 06:40 AM   #74
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Ok. I'll redeem my input on this thread with a photo. Here's a pic of my brother back in the day when he was stationed in El Centro, CA with the Navy during the late 60's, early 70's. He had a '58 Sportster 900. Love the jacket, eh? Not an outlaw, by the way. Just a biker. And I was still a little kid back in RURAL Pennsylvania unaware of the stuff going on in the rest of the world. This is probably where my own motorcycle disease originated.....

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Old 02-06-2011, 07:03 AM   #75
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I think this thread is too fucking judgmental for me to post in.. but, I like the bikes.


me too. I especially love the last chop posted with the huge extended forks and front brake still attached. I might ride one of those.
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